re: Taysom Hill and the future of the QB position

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You cannot put any stock into preseason. Jarrett Stidham was a preseason stud and no one is clamoring for him to replace Brady. Kyle Sloter completes 77% of his passes in preseason. Tim Boyle threw the most TDs in preseason. Ryan Griffin led in passing yards.

This is real life we are talking here

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I dont care about stats, im looking for awareness and ability to read a defense.

You can definitely take away those kind of things from the preseason.

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no you can't. Preseason has defenses playing vanilla. There are no schemes. On top of that your backup QBs are playing against the opposing team's backups.

You're telling me you are able to judge a player's ability to make presnap reads, call blocking assignments, audible to a better play based on the presnap reads, reread the defenses immediately after the snap and go through progressions all from the preseason?

Get out of here with this nonsense


Preseason shows you if the QB is understanding your own system, if he's learning every player's assignments and routes and if he is able to make the necessary throws. It's super vanilla, so it isn't giving you much. It's a taste of potential, and that is it. It is not if they are ready. That stuff is recognized by the coaches in the classroom and practice, which you have 0% access to.


Do I really need to make a list of all the QBs who have been stellar in the preseason only to suck come game 1? It's quite extensive.

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you have a blanket assumption he can't do quarterbacking stuff for no reason.

you are a moron if by now you continue to put the word can't in a sentence with Taysom. Rookies are drafted every year and thrusted into qb play. Lamar learned less than a year and started playing. This is Taysom's 3rd offseason in Payton's system learning under Drew Brees. Taysom Hill will not be Drew Brees. But let's make this very clear, Drew Brees can not be Taysom Hill neither.

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Midget Death Squad

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Lord you've been defending Drew like you are a Crow on the Wall defending against the Others

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You are a moron if you took me writing "no you can't" in response to someone claiming that in PRESEASON YOU CAN TELL A QBs ABILITY TO READ DEFENSES as me saying "TAYSOM CAN'T"

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I guess Jon Vilma is dumb since he pointed out in the preseason Taysom's reading capabilities

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Lets keep paying Drew 30 million dollar deals on a one year basis, and sacrifice the future of this team! This board approves.

Or we could tell Drew to take a paycut. I would.

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You have to stop thinking in terms of 10 years ago. The cap is completely different now. The fact of the matter is that starting QBs command 30+mill. Here is the current list of highest paid QBs. Look at this and tell me who on it is better than current Brees.


1. Seahawks QB Russell Wilson: $35 million
2. Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger: $34 million
3. Packers QB Aaron Rodgers: $33.5 million
4. Eagles QB Carson Wentz: $32 million
5. Falcons QB Matt Ryan: $30 million
6. Vikings QB Kirk Cousins: $28 million
7. 49ers QB Jimmy Garoppolo: $27.5 million
8. Lions QB Matthew Stafford: $27 million
9. Raiders QB Derek Carr: $25 million
9. Saints QB Drew Brees: $25 million


It's the nature of the game now that a QB will cost you 30mill or more. The only one on this list that should be payed more than Brees is Wilson, and that's only due to his age. Brees was better than him this year, but that is certainly debatable.

It will not mortgage the future to pay Brees 35mill. The cap is rising each year at a pretty significant rate, and the QB position is by far the most important one on the team.


And this Teddy v Brees comparison is silly. The offense was practically stagnant with Bridge at QB. I like what he did for us, and I defended him back then against all the irrational hate being thrown his way. But don't kid yourself into thinking this offense was better with him than with Brees. That's silly.

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. Seahawks QB Russell Wilson: $35 million
2. Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger: $34 million
3. Packers QB Aaron Rodgers: $33.5 million
4. Eagles QB Carson Wentz: $32 million
5. Falcons QB Matt Ryan: $30 million
6. Vikings QB Kirk Cousins: $28 million
7. 49ers QB Jimmy Garoppolo: $27.5 million
8. Lions QB Matthew Stafford: $27 million
9. Raiders QB Derek Carr: $25 million
9. Saints QB Drew Brees: $25 million

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This is why I think we are losing Teddy this off-season. I don't think Tampa Bay will pay Winston the money he wants, but I think they would give Teddy 15-22 million to come be the starter. Or even San Diego if Rivers retires. No way will the Saints back that up unless Teddy is day one starter for us next year.

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You have to stop thinking in terms of 10 years ago. The cap is completely different now. The fact of the matter is that starting QBs command 30+mill. Here is the current list of highest paid QBs. Look at this and tell me who on it is better than current Brees.


1. Seahawks QB Russell Wilson: $35 million
2. Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger: $34 million
3. Packers QB Aaron Rodgers: $33.5 million
4. Eagles QB Carson Wentz: $32 million
5. Falcons QB Matt Ryan: $30 million
6. Vikings QB Kirk Cousins: $28 million
7. 49ers QB Jimmy Garoppolo: $27.5 million
8. Lions QB Matthew Stafford: $27 million
9. Raiders QB Derek Carr: $25 million
9. Saints QB Drew Brees: $25 million

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You're talking about a dollar figure comparing now to 10 years ago, what you need to do is compare % of cap to be more accurate. And when looking at %, you need to ask yourself will 2020 Drew Brees be worth the same % cap space as 2010 Drew? That answer is no, clearly. You cannot say it's not mortgaging the future to pay Drew when we have like $21M dead money allocated to him next year even if he is not on the roster. When you have a playoff team as we do, an extra $21M to spend can potentially get you in the SB.

Somebody mentioned 5-0 with Teddy, not to suggest we would have gone 16-0 with Teddy or that we would go 12-4 with Taysom, but the fact is that Payton successfully made a game plan that fit the QB which then made defenses unsure of what to look for in our O. As good as our offense was when Drew was in his prime, we have to accept the fact that he no longer is and look at what he did well in his prime and that was the long pass that kept defenses honest to set up the screens and runs whereas now we run screens all game and try to run against a D that knows we cannot throw the ball deep. I said I was surprised our O had the success it had in regular season despite how limited we were, and now we saw how quickly that changed when we faced a

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playoff

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defense.

The window I think is closed on Drew as a SB QB unless he has an elite D. The window however is not closed on this team as we have a good core O-line & D-line. At this stage of Drew's career I do believe Teddy and/or Taysom are the right move going forward, not just for 2020 but also beyond

It is so funny to see all these wanting Drew to hang it up that were declaring 2 weeks ago that he was the GOAT and was going to lead us to the Super Bowl.