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re: Spencer "The Stattler" Rattler
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:33 pm to BigBrod81
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:33 pm to BigBrod81
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The Cardinals drafted Josh Rosen 10th overall in the 2018 draft.
he started 13 games that year and played in 14
So they got a good long look at him and thought he sucked, and got the #1 pick.
You keep attempting to make points and failing.
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ou think anyone in the organization truly gives a flying frick about a project second round QB
Yes, I do.
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The Saints are going to be picking top 5 in the draft no matter who on the roster plays QB.
And if they play Shough and think he's very good, they can draft an elite player at a different position, or trade the pick for a bunch.
If they play Shough and he's not good, then they can 100% lock in on QB.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 2:35 pm
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:34 pm to Fun Bunch
I said in a earlier thread that as to Tyler playing I think its about his play during the weeks. Does he improve to the point he makes everyone on the team notice. If he can't make Ratt look like the very obvious #2 qb during this season why put him in to start any game.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:36 pm to goatmilker
The #2 QB does not get a whole lot of reps during the week. Only about 10% of the total reps these days, from what I recall, with the reduction in actual practices.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:41 pm to bonethug0180
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If Shough needs "protecting" at his age, then he isn't the qb for us anyway. Throw him out and see what we have. Sink or swim. The only thing I can see is he hasn't gotten fully up to nfl speed yet so they are likely more protecting the offense from Shough than Shough from playing "too early".
I largely agree with this. I think they’re going to likely do an abbreviated “let him sit” with him though. More often than not guys benefit from at least a bit of this.
While we likely won’t have the benefit of the full year due to his age and likelihood of having a high pick next year, I’d assume they’ll try to make his shot as ideal as possible to see if he can get it.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:43 pm to goatmilker
I was at the game yesterday and it was enjoyable, and I like what the future holds. I’m talking about the rattler vs Shough shite. It’s such a close minded back and forth
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:48 pm to GynoSandberg
Hahahaha ok gotcha. I should have known better.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:52 pm to Fun Bunch
Now that you say that I realize how much I know about camp practices but I don't know crap about how a team practices during the year!
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:53 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:I think only the delusional or the one note “move the team” type fans are having a difficult time understanding.
I think people are having a real hard time understanding what this season is.
We’re going to be bad and likely finishing somewhere around 3-14. But bad doesn’t have to mean inept. Coaches get their feet wet and establish the program, put in the schemes we’ll be using for years, evaluate the younger players to see who has that potential and where the real holes lie.
We can finish with a terrible record without being a shitshow. Other organizations are constantly doing both. This is a season we take it on the chin and set the groundwork. If Rattler or Shough isn’t the answer, then next year will probably look similar, but it’s still steps in the right direction.
I didn’t really like the DA promotion, but I could understand the thought process for continuity. Unfortunately that set us back years and now we’re coming to terms. Let Coach Moore do his thing and hopefully it’ll pay off handsomely in a few years.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:54 pm to BigBrod81
Josh Rosen started 14 games in year 1. You keep making the worst comparisons. The saints are going to draft a qb if Shough doesn’t come out and show them he’s the future. My view of this entire thing is Rsttler has already shown to be trash. Throw Shough out there and see if he’s a gamer and responds. Rattler isn’t the future, he’s a backup (maybe). He was fuking terrible this weekend. See what you have in Shough and if he gets eaten alive then who cares. It’s a rebuild year.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:56 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:Call me when Rattler hits 13. Might be by game 20 of his career (he's actually behind even that pace currently). He may actually throw fewer than 9 picks through 10 games though!
Don’t tell em Derek Carr started 0-10
13 TD
9 INT
Posted on 9/8/25 at 2:57 pm to RawDog7984
quote:He also didn't even want to play football.
Rosen
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:42 pm to RawDog7984
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Josh Rosen started 14 games in year 1. You keep making the worst comparisons.
Sorry your ability to use your comprehension skills are complete dog shite. The point about Rosen was that a 10th overall pick was used to select him only for him to be replaced by the 1st overall pick the following season.
It's hilarious for anyone to think a project 2nd round QB won't get passed over for a top 5 QB pick next offseason especially with the history of Loomis not seeming to value picks anyway.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:43 pm to Soda City Spur
Rattler's TRASH
Posted on 9/8/25 at 3:51 pm to Fun Bunch
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And if they play Shough and think he's very good
Your expectations towards rookie QBs are unrealistic. You refuse to see that elite play from rookie QBs are EXTREMELY rare & that the majority things that get learned about rookies being forced to start in year 1 are their flaws & weaknesses because opposing defensive coordinators will be relentless. You are hoping & praying that he's very good yet his collegiate play as well as the average play of NFL rookie QBs say otherwise.
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If they play Shough and he's not good, then they can 100% lock in on QB.
Yet earlier you said Shough will be given a longer leash because of "muh 40th pick!!!" So which is it?
Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:04 pm to BigBrod81
You’re an idiot on here and have proven to be time and time again. Yes we all get it. You keep bringing up mahomes, Rodgers, love, which all were horrible comparisons. Now you’re mentioning Rosen. We all get the point you’re trying to make you’re just doing a dog shite job making it. I agree, the saints will draft a qb if they are in a position to draft a legit franchise guy. Unfortunately for your example Josh Rosen, he came in and started basically the entire season. They knew and saw what they had in him. They pulled the plug quickly. Which is why i say shough needs to play. See what you have. It’s not that your point is bad. Every fukin example you make is awful.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 4:41 pm to RawDog7984
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You’re an idiot on here and have proven to be time and time again. Yes we all get it. You keep bringing up mahomes, Rodgers, love, which all were horrible comparisons. Now you’re mentioning Rosen. We all get the point you’re trying to make you’re just doing a dog shite job making it. I agree, the saints will draft a qb if they are in a position to draft a legit franchise guy. Unfortunately for your example Josh Rosen, he came in and started basically the entire season. They knew and saw what they had in him. They pulled the plug quickly. Which is why i say shough needs to play. See what you have. It’s not that your point is bad. Every fukin example you make is awful.
Holy melt!!!
Posted on 9/8/25 at 6:09 pm to bonethug0180
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Only he didn't. He hasn't looked like he progressed at any point at all.
This! He is the SAME QB that he was last year. He he’s had a full season in the NFL, and then an offseason to work on his deficiencies, and he and Shough are dead even……with Shough showing more upside.
I don’t agree with Rattler starting, but I can definitely see the argument for letting Shough sit a few games to see it from the sidelines, but that’s about it. No matter what, you need to see what you have in Shough THIS YEAR.
Shough is not a high 1st round QB that you can just let sit, and not evaluate FULLY in season. If the QB class next yr is as advertised….you need to know if you need to pick one.
I do agree that Rattler is still developing (as Brod keeps saying), but that’s not the point. The point is that Shough has more upside than Rattler….so that’s who needs to be evaluated, not Rattler.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:07 pm to infantry1026
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I don’t agree with Rattler starting
f u hater
we MUST start RATTLER if we want to WIN NOW!
Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:11 pm to infantry1026
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He is the SAME QB that he was last year
Break down specific plays for us.
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The point is that Shough has more upside than Rattler
One guy was once projected to be the #1 pick in the draft and the other is a 26 year old rookie. I don’t see this great upside with either of them.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:53 pm to bonethug0180
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People crucified Carr
We paid for Carr. He was a 10 year vet
Rattler is a 5th rounder. The reason he’s starting is because Carr failed and Haener was a waste. Shough is obviously not ready to hit the ground running. Rattler actually played well today. He will probably never be a legit starter but it makes no sense to criticize him.
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