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re: Spencer "The Stattler" Rattler
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:10 am to bonethug0180
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:10 am to bonethug0180
I disagree, the Cards use a lot of exotic looks defensively including 5 down and 3 safeties
Edit: not defending Rattler. Just saying the cards are a pretty unique defensive team.
Edit: not defending Rattler. Just saying the cards are a pretty unique defensive team.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 10:11 am
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:15 am to Fun Bunch
quote:i missed the part where KM is calling plays specifically for Rattler to score TDs instead of calling run plays for the RBs and pass plays for the receivers to separate, catch and run after the catch.
13 points
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:25 am to Fun Bunch
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But Rattler is simply just fine and will never be a "playmaker" himself
It's amazing to me how some people view Rattler as an 8-10 year veteran with years of NFL experience & not a second year QB who is still learning, growing & developing himself. I didn't know second year QBs were complete, finished products in terms of development.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:33 am to BigBrod81
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It particularly hurts not having a big bodied threat at WR or TE who can physical his way into getting open.
It's really telling when the booth will make comments about how AZ has what they want with Harrison in 1-on-1 coverage against any CB; and how they need to give him a look or take advantage of that. Yet, when Saints are in similar situations, the conversation revolves around the scheme to get someone open
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:36 am to BigBrod81
They are not but he has had 7 starts now over the course of two years.
Again, as I've stated, he's going to get until week 5 at the earliest.
Again, as I've stated, he's going to get until week 5 at the earliest.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:36 am to Soda City Spur
Look I'm rooting for him because he's the guy that's our quarterback right now. But if you had told me that he was going to have 46 passing attempts before the game started yesterday then I would have known we were going to lose
There were games where even Drew Brees would have that many pass attempts and we lost.
There were games where even Drew Brees would have that many pass attempts and we lost.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:40 am to BigBrod81
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It's amazing to me how some people view Rattler as an 8-10 year veteran with years of NFL experience & not a second year QB who is still learning, growing & developing himself. I didn't know second year QBs were complete, finished products in terms of development.
100%
Especially while tasked with developing amongst a bottom tier group of weapons and up and down line. Not like he got plugged in with a bunch of young weapons or dominant o line.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:42 am to BigBrod81
This team has been shite converting 3rd down and shite in the RZ going back to 2021. You are 100% correct in saying there is no viable threat when push comes to shove. Brees could make shite skill players work but these mid QBs need weapons. Colston, Graham, Thomas types were constants when he had success. If Juwan Johnson is your go to in important situations you are fricked
Posted on 9/8/25 at 10:57 am to Fun Bunch
Yesterday might have been peak Ratt as Arizona is not peak defense.
We wonder how many games he gets but I think it's not so much Ratt on Sundays as it is Tyler during the week. Does he make big noticeable strides at practice that the coaches and teammates can't help but notice or does he just level out and keep getting beat out by Ratt?
We wonder how many games he gets but I think it's not so much Ratt on Sundays as it is Tyler during the week. Does he make big noticeable strides at practice that the coaches and teammates can't help but notice or does he just level out and keep getting beat out by Ratt?
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:03 am to Fun Bunch
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They are not but he has had 7 starts now over the course of two years.
Who developed him last year during those starts?
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:12 am to bonethug0180
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People crucified Carr, who was above average, but are willing to settle for below average I guess, as long as it's not Carr?
Look at the difference in salary. With Rattler, we get similar results for like 1/10th of the cost, allowing us to improve in other areas of the roster.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:14 am to Fun Bunch
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They are not but he has had 7 starts now over the course of two years.
Somebody should have told this to Baker Mayfield & Geno Smith. Their careers should have been over with after 7 career starts according your opinion. Was Peyton Manning a finished product after 16 starts because he threw 28 interceptions his rookie year?
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:16 am to bonethug0180
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He also had an int called back because of a call way away from the play and one dead dropped by a defender.
Did he underthrow the WR? I think Shaheed lost the ball and that's why it got picked.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:19 am to BigBrod81
quote:Yeah, I don’t understand how 7 starts is being represented as a large sample size. Especially with 6 of those starts under a failed regime and proven loser at HC.
Somebody should have told this to Baker Mayfield & Geno Smith. Their careers should have been over with after 7 career starts according your opinion. Was Peyton Manning a finished product after 16 starts because he threw 28 interceptions his rookie year?
I’m not saying Rattler is going to be the answer, but speaking in absolutes after 7 starts isn’t recommended.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:24 am to BigBrod81
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Somebody should have told this to Baker Mayfield & Geno Smith. Their careers should have been over with after 7 career starts according your opinion. Was Peyton Manning a finished product after 16 starts because he threw 28 interceptions his rookie year?
That's nice and all but we have a new coaching staff that picked a QB 40th.
Like it or not, but Rattler is not going to get the same grace as someone picked 1st overall. A light has to turn on much quicker for him than for others.
He certainly can still be a guy, but I am not seeing it so far. I'm glad you are.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:39 am to Fun Bunch
There's plenty of reason he went in the 5th round to begin with, and we see that every time he plays. He is a very limited qb with an arm who can kind of scramble a couple of times a game. He literally does nothing game breaking to help lead to wins.
Trent Dilfer was fine for the 2000 Ravens. We are not that team and Rattler is not someone that will ever get it done with this team. We need so much more than a limited game manager.
Trent Dilfer was fine for the 2000 Ravens. We are not that team and Rattler is not someone that will ever get it done with this team. We need so much more than a limited game manager.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:42 am to Fun Bunch
Bunch, do you move on from Shough if he sucks for 7 games?
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:47 am to GynoSandberg
Depends on what we see.
But he is going to get more grace as a rookie picked 40th overall by this staff, rather than a 5th round pick 2nd year player that already started last year that was selected by someone else.
And again, I am saying Rattler should start at least 3 more games.
I am just telling you what I see from Rattler. He is fine. I just do not see any flashes of brilliance.
But he is going to get more grace as a rookie picked 40th overall by this staff, rather than a 5th round pick 2nd year player that already started last year that was selected by someone else.
And again, I am saying Rattler should start at least 3 more games.
I am just telling you what I see from Rattler. He is fine. I just do not see any flashes of brilliance.
Posted on 9/8/25 at 11:48 am to GynoSandberg
Depends on what he shows, and in what ways he sucks. If it's akin to Rattler in that his accuracy is really bad past 10 yards and he is not showing any progress on making multiple reads on a play, yes you move on. Rattler's arm does us no good if he has no aim to go with it, and he isn't a lightning quick scrambler to make up for his short comings.
This is why Taysom was never going to be a legit qb. He couldn't aim past 10 and had way too much of a cannon with no touch inside of that. At least he could run though. I'd rather start him over Rattler.
This is why Taysom was never going to be a legit qb. He couldn't aim past 10 and had way too much of a cannon with no touch inside of that. At least he could run though. I'd rather start him over Rattler.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 11:50 am
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