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re: Salary Cap officially announced at $255.4m for 2024. $30m increase.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 4:04 pm to Swagga
Posted on 2/23/24 at 4:04 pm to Swagga
Some of y'all thinking this team is a contender every year and the cap stupidity by Loomis and company is not an issue are hilariously idiotic.
It hampers the team to do anything, and the Saints are about to feel the crippling effects of it this year and next. You don't have a player like Brees to help overcome coaching deficiencies nor talent deficiencies at OL/WR.
You don't have good enough coaching at the DL position to overcome the lack of talent issues and are going to again have to waste draft capital trying to put a band-aid on it. Oh and you lost significant draft capital to draft a Brandin Cooks clone after wasting three 1st round picks on injury-prone DL.
There is the reason that Brees and the Saints only had one Super Bowl in his time in NOLA, and it is and always will be Loomis' arrogance with regards to the cap. He's like the guy that keeps thinking he can just get another credit card once he maxes out his other ones.
It hampers the team to do anything, and the Saints are about to feel the crippling effects of it this year and next. You don't have a player like Brees to help overcome coaching deficiencies nor talent deficiencies at OL/WR.
You don't have good enough coaching at the DL position to overcome the lack of talent issues and are going to again have to waste draft capital trying to put a band-aid on it. Oh and you lost significant draft capital to draft a Brandin Cooks clone after wasting three 1st round picks on injury-prone DL.
There is the reason that Brees and the Saints only had one Super Bowl in his time in NOLA, and it is and always will be Loomis' arrogance with regards to the cap. He's like the guy that keeps thinking he can just get another credit card once he maxes out his other ones.
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 4:24 pm to Geauxgurt
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There is the reason that Brees and the Saints only had one Super Bowl in his time in NOLA, and it is and always will be Loomis' arrogance with regards to the cap.
Yes, the salary cap is the reason we didn’t win a Super Bowl in 2011 or 2019. It had nothing to do with Gregg Williams and NFL officiating.
This place is unreal.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 6:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Do you think that I don't understand that the cap goes up?
Yes. We clearly see that you dont.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 6:01 pm to Swagga
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Yes, the salary cap is the reason we didn’t win a Super Bowl in 2011 or 2019. It had nothing to do with Gregg Williams and NFL officiating. This place is unreal.
Yup. Im convinced the Karens are mad about the cap increase.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 6:06 pm to tigerterrace
Well they were way over last year, and they signed Carr. Looks like they can still make moves
Posted on 2/23/24 at 6:08 pm to P bean
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This post was edited on 2/23/24 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 2/23/24 at 9:12 pm to P bean
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We clearly see that you dont
Posted on 2/23/24 at 11:00 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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Loomis also celebrating that we're no longer last in cap space
What, who's worse than us?
My guess is the Browns.
This post was edited on 2/23/24 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:11 am to Chrome
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What, who's worse than us?
Bills were $2M further over the cap w 2 or 3 fewer players signed.
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My guess is the Browns.
Browns cap is not atrocious. Less than $8M over and Watson’s cap hit is $64M. Loomis that shite since you’re stuck with him anyway and you have a lot of room to work this year
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 7:12 am
Posted on 2/24/24 at 8:41 am to Proximo
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Because you're wrong every year. Maybe you'll get 'em one day
Literally yearly.
Dude is in other threads arguing that the salary cap is “predictable” - then we get an un predicted and unprecedented salary cap increase, which helps the Saints. Apparently he doesnt like it.
Good job whining tho, Karens gotta Karen.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 8:59 am to P bean
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Dude is in other threads arguing that the salary cap is “predictable”
It is, within a reasonable MOE
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then we get an un predicted and unprecedented salary cap increase
The % over expected is very slight and meaningless to our cap situation in totality.
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which helps the Saints.
Very slightly. The difference longterm is basically meaningless, especially when you consider the corresponding salary inflation.
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Apparently he doesnt like it.
The cap increase? I'm neutral. It rose within the expected MOE, which I said it would. Nothing has changed.
Our future cap is stil fricked and prevents us from being a title contender.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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The cap increase? I'm neutral. It rose within the expected MOE, which I said it would. Nothing has changed.
Lol, no it didnt. It rose well above where you expected. The history of the cap had to be listed for you LOL.
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The % over expected is very slight and meaningless to our cap situation in totality.
LOL. An extra 15 million from 240mill is a significant difference maker. Get real.
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Our future cap is stil fricked and prevents us from being a title contender.
One thing consistent, is that you cannot predict the future. You of all posters especially.
You have chicken little catastrophe syndrome. Karens gotta Karen.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:31 am to P bean
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Lol, no it didnt. I
It 100% did.
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It rose well above where you expected.
Not at all. It's within the expected MOE.
You're creating a straw man fantasy.
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An extra 15 million from 240mill is a significant difference maker.
6.25%?
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You have chicken little catastrophe syndrome.
I understand basic math and the impacts of our cap strategy.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:21 am to Proximo
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Because you're wrong every year.
What is he wrong about? Every one understands they will make moves to get compliant. They do that by extending older, declining players. The concern is this strategy keeps the team from be legitimate contenders. Of course some will blame injuries or officiating of some other excuse. But the bottom line is the team hasn’t made the playoffs of cracked 10 wins in 3 years. Despite playing in a weak division and last year with a very easy schedule and they still didn’t make the playoffs. If you are celebrating “Loomising” what exactly are you excited about? Besides dunking on a poster on a message board? What makes you think this team can win at a high level in the near future?
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:33 am to DBG
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He’s right. Football evaluations cost the team, not cap tinkering
Really, because when I was told we couldn’t keep Hendrickson on here it was because of our cap situation. If Loomis wouldn’t have us in a huge hole every year we could have easily slapped a franchise tag on him and kept him like I suggested.
We also lost Marcus Williams and tried to replace him with Maye because he was cheaper. That was an obvious downgrade.
Our drafts have sucked which has put a big spotlight on losing the few really good players we did draft and develop.
But hell, y’all keep on clapping and cheering for Loomising….
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 10:37 am
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:43 am to Chalkywhite84
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The sad thing is this isn't some master plan. They have backed themselves into this corner. They literally have to do this every year to even be compliant. Why can't they just take a year off and clear some of this money out just like Tampa did. They need a reset. You are starting every new league year with your hands tied behind your back.
100% correct. I can tell they have no plan or direction. Seems like they just winging it year to year. Loomis ego is so big he can’t see the forest through the trees. The Carr signing snd honey Badger signing should have never happened. Should have went cheap at qb and got this cap mess under control. How he thinks this is close to a championship roster I don’t know? He’s either delusional or is trying to prove that Payton wasn’t the reason for those winning years.
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 10:44 am
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:02 am to Townedrunkard
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I can tell they have no plan or direction.
This board could not be any more hilarious.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:15 am to Chad504boy
Can you enlighten us on this plan?
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:21 am to Swagga
It’s makes sense to manipulate the cap to fit pieces next to Drew Brees
Doesn’t make sense to play with the numbers to accolade Derek Carr and 40 year old cam Jordan
Doesn’t make sense to play with the numbers to accolade Derek Carr and 40 year old cam Jordan
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:40 am to Chad504boy
When did you become such a ardent mouthpiece of the Saints organization?
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