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Posted on 4/29/23 at 4:52 pm to Chalkywhite84
It was just Trautman for the cost of swapping picks.
The way you phrased it makes it sound like we gave up 2 picks.
The way you phrased it makes it sound like we gave up 2 picks.
This post was edited on 4/29/23 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 4/29/23 at 4:53 pm to bonethug0180
Hopefully Sean takes Kamara off our hands and gives us a decent trade too.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 4:55 pm to Lester Earl
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The argument isn’t if he lived up to his billing or not
You said Payton is probably laughing at his development by the nimrods he left in charge.
That coach was a Payton guy.
And the only reason I could see to give him up is they really liked the guy that they would pick with the broncos pick.
I do agree it doesn't make much sense. I would've let him play out his contract.
I can't really see the trade going down that quickly.
Maybe Payton called and asked about trautman being available and they quickly worked the deal out. Does seem dumb imo. Obviously they told you what they thought of trautman.
Hope they have a good plan for half a Starting tight end. Juwan is mainly split out. Some people don't realize how important that inline tight end is to the run game.
This post was edited on 4/29/23 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 4/29/23 at 4:56 pm to Lester Earl
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And why are you giving him away to pick a guy unlikely to ever contribute.
Two things in that post Les.
One we didn't give him away.
Two your pissing in the well water and then saying its bad. You just dissed a guy projected 3rd/4th round we got late. Well no sh!t if he never pans out but at least we didn't waste a 3rd on him.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 4:57 pm to Chalkywhite84
Do you like the offensive staff without Payton? I’m confused
His offensive assistants have always been puppets. And just about all of them have crashed when they went out on their own. Dan Campbell remains to be seen
His offensive assistants have always been puppets. And just about all of them have crashed when they went out on their own. Dan Campbell remains to be seen
Posted on 4/29/23 at 4:57 pm to Chalkywhite84
No its not. Moving up to the third-fourth is a lot harder than swapping late 6th round picks. I mean heck that would be amazing if they could pull that off, they didn’t because honestly again no would accept that trade.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 5:01 pm to Lester Earl
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Not negative, just a puzzling move considering the pieces at TE. Giving away a guy that is clearly worth a roster spot on an nfl team.
Payton had 2 seasons to develop Trautman, he can have as many as he wants now. In what universe do you keep someone who was supposed to be a starter when in 43 games in 3 seasons you squeeze out 60 rec. for 640 yds for 4 tds. I guarantee they can find a better TE in free agency.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 5:02 pm to Pels_Yaz
Trautman could have been an ok option if juwan needs a breather or god forbid gets hurt. The free agent market has 0 tight ends. They better have a plan with some UDFAs. This Saints regime is going to take a ton of shite next year real quick if we look like the old sloppy mess that it seems like we’re going to be.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 5:02 pm to Lester Earl
Trautman screams replacement level, not very worried.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 5:03 pm to LSUpsychWARD
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to take a ton of shite next year real quick
Several years to late slick.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 5:04 pm to hellsu
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I guarantee they can find a better TE in free agency
Go Google remaining free agents and find a TE. Not one under 30 years old and it’s headlined by MyCole Pruitt. Trautman was our best TE because we haven’t drafted well in a while. It’s ok to admit when your team is fricking up
Posted on 4/29/23 at 5:06 pm to LSUpsychWARD
Trautman is not a reliable TE, dude.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 5:11 pm to goatmilker
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Several years to late slick.
I’d say 90% of this board is still quick to defend the saints FO anytime someone criticizes them like when anyone second guessed their choices the past couple nights. I don’t see that continuing when we look like shite again this year. I don’t see how we are going to get much better before the season starts. And the draft picks don’t even have the ceilings to be better than their replacements. Foskey projects to be what Davenport was not even what he could have been. Maybe Bresee can be better than Onyemata? Miller certainly can’t be better than Kamara in his prime. We think Carr is going to be as good as Brees at his age?
Posted on 4/29/23 at 5:13 pm to MrJimBeam
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Trautman is not a reliable TE, dude
Reliable? I’m not saying he’s Antonio Gates, but he’s more reliable than what we have behind Johnson for gods sakes
Posted on 4/29/23 at 5:13 pm to hellsu
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In what universe do you keep someone who was supposed to be a starter when in 43 games in 3 seasons you squeeze out 60 rec. for 640 yds for 4 tds. I guarantee they can find a better TE in free agency.
Absolutely, but Hill already is a better TE than that.
I think the bigger issue is not playing him more at TE as if we were holding him back for something. Hill has shown he can block and catch. Use him.
This post was edited on 4/29/23 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 4/29/23 at 5:15 pm to LSUpsychWARD
We saved money and got a decent sized WR graded in the third. TE def one of the thinnest positions now but hopefully there’s a plan. Losing your mind over Trautman is odd.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 5:16 pm to LSUpsychWARD
I completely agree. I’ve gotten blasted because I don’t just fall in line to everything Loomis does. I swear they win a championship in 2009 and 14 years later the saints front office can do no wrong. If you criticize something, you’re just complaining and being negative lol Thats fine when we have shitty seasons in a row let’s see how many of these postive Saints do everything great posters we still have.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 5:17 pm to LSUpsychWARD
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Trautman is not a reliable TE, dude
Reliable? I’m not saying he’s Antonio Gates, but he’s more reliable than what we have behind Johnson for gods sakes
People act like he was running routes on every down. He was basically a blocking tight end, which he is pretty good at.
He made some plays in the passing game last year. Rightly they view juwan as the superior receiver but they still need to find a solid te2 that catch black well and make tough catches.
Im sure they can find someone
I'd just like to know when they knew they were going to trade him or when the discussions started.
Posted on 4/29/23 at 5:17 pm to LSUpsychWARD
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Trautman was our best TE
Compared to who in the TE room last year?
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