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re: Saints re-sign Chase Young, 3 years 51 million
Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:41 am to P bean
Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:41 am to P bean
quote:
Saints signed Young for his exact market value per spoctrac.
17 mill per year was Youngs expected deal.
Wow. This isnt new information either.
Saints paid him 13 last year.
You forecasting increasing nfl cap.
He proved on the field.
He proved in the lockerroom.
He proved to stay healthy.
Voila.... 17 mill a year now.
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Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:42 am to SlowFlowPro
You watch too much NBA. NFL teams don’t let talented young guys walk so they can get a high pick the next year and/or hopefully sign similar players in 3 years
Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:52 am to NIH
quote:
NFL teams don’t let talented young guys walk so they can get a high pick the next year
a. That does happen
b. That's not what I am saying we should do. This isn't about the draft, it's about un-fricking our terrible cap situation.
Signing Chase Young to a market-level deal doesn't move us any closer to a title and prevents us from having that opportunity in the future.
At this point, we're likely not even a likely playoff team. We just restructured 2 old arse guys in Davis and Carr. We're waiting to see what they do with Cam/Hill. Those moves severely decrease the chance of competitiveness during the pendency of their restructures. Chase Young is just compounding that issue.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
At some point you have to field a competitive NFL caliber roster. How many successful examples of tanking can you point to?
Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:57 am to NIH
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How many successful examples of tanking can you point to?
Who is talking about tanking? You keep trying to shoe horn that in.
Tanking implies we are doing this for a draft reason. That's not what I'm saying. The metaphor is "taking our medicine" or "paying for our sins". This isn't about intentionally being bad to gain something from it. This is about un-fricking our cap situation and paying for all the can kicking.
We can either deal with it and be in a competitive cap situation or start every year with 1 arm behind our backs.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:58 am to NIH
Less than successful examples of 1 year turn arounds or short build backs.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:58 am to Fun Bunch
The Chase Young contract would be fine if it wasn't happening under the shadow of Derek Carr. Young is young (natch), and we need more good young players under contract. But while we're stuck with Derek Carr and his contract many of us have little hope for success over the next couple years, which makes it feel like any significant free agent contract is a waste.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
and be in a competitive cap situation
PRINT THE SHIRTS. 2028 TOP 5 CAP COMPETITIVENESS CHAMPIONS
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:00 am to dcw7g
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the shadow of Derek Carr
yeah, that huge shadow of paying an nfl qb bottom shelf tiered monies is really whats killing this organization man.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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We can either deal with it and be in a competitive cap situation or start every year with 1 arm behind our backs.
Loomis has made it clear that he is never, ever going to "take the medicine".
He is going to try to stay competitive while he very slowly undoes the cap situation.
Looking on the horizon, it does get better barring another Carr level mistake.
We have to live in the reality we are in. They were a bit more conservative last year and are staying a bit more conservative this year.
Its all about drafting well and coaching well now. They have to get better draft wise. If they do and get the QB situation right after this year, we will be good again sooner rather than later.
if they don't, we won't
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:02 am to Geauxldilocks
quote:More like top 20.
He signs a 1 year prove it deal, finishes 60th in sacks with 5.5 and now we pay him like a top 10 pass rusher! WTF!
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:02 am to Chad504boy
quote:
PRINT THE SHIRTS. 2028 TOP 5 CAP COMPETITIVENESS CHAMPIONS
As opposed to...."2025! Missed the playoffs yet again in the shittiest division in the NFL!"
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:02 am to Chad504boy
quote:
yeah, that huge shadow of paying an nfl qb bottom shelf tiered monies is really whats killing this organization man.
The Carr contract and restructures has done serious damage to this team and our situation, there is no other way to look at it. The light at the end of the tunnel can start to be seen now though.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:03 am to Chad504boy
quote:
that huge shadow of paying an nfl qb bottom shelf tiered monies is really whats killing this organization man.
If we had just ridden Jameis for one more year do you realize how much better we'd be looking right now?
At the cost of nothing, considering we haven't made the playoffs under Carr
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:08 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
If we had just ridden Jameis for one more year do you realize how much better we'd be looking right now?
At the cost of nothing, considering we haven't made the playoffs under Carr
posts such as these are so fricking stupid, they really aren't worth taking seriously any longer. it really just shows your arse.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:12 am to Chad504boy
quote:
posts such as these are so fricking stupid
Why, exactly?
quote:
, they really aren't worth taking seriously any longer. it really just shows your arse.
And yet, you can't explain why.
Cost: nothing.
Benefit: tremendous
If we never signed Carr and just rid Jameis for a year, we wouldn't have had to restructure Jameis. We could have eaten all of the bad deals and be done with no dead cap for 2026 and tens of millions of dollars of pure cap room right now. Cam could have already been let go. Hill could have already been let go. Mathieu could have already been let go.
And, again, the cost was nothing.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:14 am to Fun Bunch
I can't believe he's only 25 still. Feels like he's been in the league forever. I guess the NFL has that effect on the mind.
DE was a must for this team and Young has shown major promise, he just needs to take the next step. Hopefully a new scheme and staff can finally unlock his monster potential.
DE was a must for this team and Young has shown major promise, he just needs to take the next step. Hopefully a new scheme and staff can finally unlock his monster potential.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:15 am to LSUZombie
quote:
I can't believe he's only 25 still. Feels like he's been in the league forever. I guess the NFL has that effect on the mind.
pretty sure chase young was the same draft class as eli manning.
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:19 am to LSUZombie
quote:
I can't believe he's only 25 still. Feels like he's been in the league forever. I guess the NFL has that effect on the mind.
Not many guys get traded like he did on a rookie deal. Last year was his 5th year.
He turns 26 in a few weeks if that makes it feel more normal.
Adebo is also 25 turning 26, just FWIW
Posted on 3/11/25 at 9:19 am to SlowFlowPro
I agree with you re Carr. I think you’re dressing up the cap thing for tanking but agree to disagree. I’d rather keep guys like Young. I’d have liked to keep Adebo too.
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