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Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:24 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
178758 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:24 am to
TT has thrown for over 250 yards only twice this year. He also doesnt' make many mistakes and can beat you with his legs.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112832 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:28 am to
quote:

I'll give you cousins, but Taylor?

He isn't any better than Cam, Stafford or Cutler.
Tyrod Taylor not better than Cutler? C'mon now.

Not saying he's this great QB by no means, but I think Taylor is probably the most underrated QB in the game. He always has shite WRs and a terrible Oline.

I think if you swapped him and Alex Smith right now, he'd be putting up Alex Smith numbers in KC and Smith would be putting up Tyrod Taylor numbers in Buffalo. Meaning, they're for the most part, the same QB.
Posted by SlowurRole
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2011
860 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:34 am to
This team is actually built to play in cold weather (weird to say). We have a smash mouth running game with a nasty defense and Brees can make the throws when need be.... No more are the days were Drew has to throw 35 times in the cold, we can get down and dirty with anybody ...This ain't the Saints of old, we are no longer a FINESS team and it feels good!!
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:40 am to
I posted this on the fantasy board, pretty incredible what we are doing to QBs on a consistent basis:

During the 6 game winning streak, here is how starting QBs fared against the saints, fantasy wise:

Winston - 3.48 (Fitz - 11.72)
Trubisky - 9.86
Hundley - 11.88
Stafford - 22.88 (pretty much threw all of the second half, if i remember correctly)
Cutler - 5.06
Cam - 8.28



Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23649 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:19 am to
quote:

Tyrod Taylor not better than Cutler? C'mon now.


I'll give you this one. I was wrong to include Cutler, but you say he has shite WRs and a terrible Oline (not true) then what could you possibly be worried about.

quote:

Meaning, they're for the most part, the same QB.


I don't know about this one. Alex Smith has been this for years. Tyrod has some more playing to do.
Posted by mark65mc
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
11531 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:26 am to
quote:

This team is actually built to play in cold weather (weird to say). We have a smash mouth running game with a nasty defense and Brees can make the throws when need be.... No more are the days were Drew has to throw 35 times in the cold, we can get down and dirty with anybody ...This ain't the Saints of old, we are no longer a FINESS team and it feels good!!



This! Protect the football and come home with a W. Get a lead and let the young secondary feast on bad throws.
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
8499 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:37 am to
forecast for Buffalo on Sunday is raining and 44 degrees... that ain't so good
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130017 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:40 am to
Except this team hasn't been protecting the football lately at all. We've been a bit fortuitous, but I can remember 7-8 fumbles or almost fumbles in the past 3 games.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14951 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:44 am to
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Except this team hasn't been protecting the football lately at all. We've been a bit fortuitous, but I can remember 7-8 fumbles or almost fumbles in the past 3 games.

That really needs to be a focus across the board this week. Too many giveaways in the last few weeks.
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11781 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:50 am to
The Kamara fumble was just a hell of a play by the D.

The ST drills should be the focus...still not sure if I have ever seen someone try to field a punt off their shoulder pads before...wtf Snead. Plus Ginn put 2 on the ground.

Not to mention the FG woes between an easy make that was missed and the blocked XP.
Posted by mark65mc
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
11531 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Except this team hasn't been protecting the football lately at all. We've been a bit fortuitous, but I can remember 7-8 fumbles or almost fumbles in the past 3 games.


I agree. It's like the turnover bug has been passed. It went from Brees to Ingram to Kamara. Hopefully, they all have it out of their system for the road trip to Buffalo. It's not like they do not know how to play without turning it over, see weeks 1-4.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7913 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 1:13 pm to
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The Kamara fumble was just a hell of a play by the D.


as was the second Ingram fumble last week. Those type of T.O.s and highlight reel interceptions/tip drills are just unavoidable.

Punt return fumbles
Ingrams first last week
Brees near interception to Lavante David That's the ones we need to clean up and there aren't any excuse for.
Posted by JB2010
San Antonio
Member since Aug 2009
1010 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:53 am to
How good is their OL?
Posted by blackpurplegold
Houma, LA
Member since Jul 2017
49 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:00 pm to
These QBs that you mentioned have been sacked a combined 92 times. I like our D line against these O lines. Another thing is none of these QBs has a deadly target to throw the ball to aside from Ryan/Jones. If we can either get up in score by a nice margin on ATL or stop their run and screen game, I think we can play man on Jones and Sanu without help.

Cousins-22
Taylor-26
Ryan-14
Goff-7
Newton-23
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 12:02 pm
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23238 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

think we can win at Buffalo, but again, those are typically the games we lose


Saints are 3-1 against Buffalo at Buffalo
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:19 pm to
Snead is coming out of the doghouse this game. Offense is about to catch fire. And, CSP is actually calling great plays.
Posted by Northshore Saint
Loranger, LA
Member since Feb 2013
1864 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:27 pm to
44 degrees is not that bad
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:34 pm to
Marshon a beast baw
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69066 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 2:25 pm to
Buddy of mine is a huge bills fan. So I'm jumping on that saints wagon this week. I don't think Ingram will be able run much between the tackles on them because the bills are pretty stout especially at home.

I'm looking for some edge plays from Kamara. That's where my boy says the bills are weaker and I think Kamara has turned those edge plays and swing passes into real strength. Looking forward to this game. Should be a pretty good matchup.
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