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re: Saints name Rattler starting QB for Week 1
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:09 pm to FireGoodell
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:09 pm to FireGoodell
quote:
Spend a 2nd rounder on a QB Said QB shows more upside than Rattler who we’ve already seen a ton of Said QB doesn’t start Makes sense
Says some random on the internet.
{slides his chips to the side where actual NFL coaches make decisions}
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:09 pm to bonethug0180
There's a 99.9% they'll both start multiple games this season so people being obsessed with who starts the first game was dumb.
This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:15 pm to bonethug0180
quote:
Hope he does well and doesn't need to be benched. frick anyone who is wanting them to bench him after 4 or 5 games without actually giving him a shot
Nobody wants him to suck, he’s just clearly not very good so it’s inevitable that he gets benched eventually. Even if he’s just okay he will get benched because you have to see what you spent a second round pick on before next years draft. We are really just wasting a couple weeks that could be used to develop Shough
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:16 pm to drizztiger
quote:
Was it not clear to you?
No, it was not clear.
Thread titles are my biggest pet peeve on here.
Just say
"Saints name Rattler starting QB for Week 1"
Done
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:16 pm to dupergreenie
quote:
Perhaps.....the staff doesn't want to get him killed with this offensive line. He can play some this year and after 'hopefully' a good draft and free agent signings he will be in a better situation.
The problem with this is, if we are in contention for the #1 pick and draft a QB next year, then picking him in the 2nd was a complete waste and we wouldn’t have even seen him play that much
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:17 pm to Tigerjim09
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Nobody wants him to suck, he’s just clearly not very good so it’s inevitable that he gets benched eventually. Even if he’s just okay he will get benched because you have to see what you spent a second round pick on before next years draft. We are really just wasting a couple weeks that could be used to develop Shough
There is substantial value in developing by watching from the sidelines for a couple of weeks. Its been commented on many times by QB developers
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:20 pm to drizztiger
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:20 pm to FireGoodell
quote:
The problem with this is, if we are in contention for the #1 pick and draft a QB next year, then picking him in the 2nd was a complete waste and we wouldn’t have even seen him play that much
Some very smart people said this on draft night.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:21 pm to saintsfan22
quote:I am truly hoping this isn't the case, but I suspect it will be. I have my feelings about Rattler (and how much I think he sucks), but I'm hoping to be proven very wrong.
There's a 99.9% they'll both start multiple games this season so people being obsessed with who starts the first game was dumb.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:21 pm to saintsfan22
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There's a 99.9% they'll both start multiple games this season so people being obsessed with who starts the first game was dumb.
Why did they draft Shough if thru didn’t believe he was definitely better than Rattler? That’s what I want to know.
Rattler is below league average. Yes we need to upgrade; yet we spent the 40th pick on a guy who isn’t demonstrably better right now.
Instead of choosing the best player available, we chose the best QB available.
That kind of drafting is what gets us in trouble, we seem to wind up trying to force things. We should have taken a top player, played with Rattler and took out medicine. Now we are going to take our medicine and not have a good number two from ‘25 on our roster.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:22 pm to Fun Bunch
I think Kurt Warner had the Giants at 5-4 and they benched him for young Mr Eli Manning. Then lost most of the remaining games.
Eli then won two SBs.
Eli then won two SBs.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:23 pm to doubleb
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Why did they draft Shough if thru didn’t believe he was definitely better than Rattler? That’s what I want to know.
Maybe they did then they didn't.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:23 pm to saintsfan22
quote:
Some very smart people said this on draft night
Some said it multiple times….
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:24 pm to drizztiger
Gross
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:24 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
There is substantial value in developing by watching from the sidelines for a couple of weeks. Its been commented on many times by QB developers
I would agree with this much more if we had an established veteran QB. I am really not sure that there will be much value at all in watching Rattler most likely play poorly for a few weeks. Not to mention Shough is an old rookie and already much more mature than a lot of QBs who come into the league.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:25 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
There is substantial value in developing by watching from the sidelines for a couple of weeks. Its been commented on many times by QB developers
Fair
Ghey
But fair
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:25 pm to FireGoodell
quote:Not if he shows out next preseason or two and we get trade offers for him.
then picking him in the 2nd was a complete waste and we wouldn’t have even seen him play that much
He wouldn't be the first backup that people gushed over in preseason to trade a high pick or two for.
Just based on my expectations though, I think we will see him start this year, and not just to see him start. I really don't trust Rattler as the guy, but if this is the path they are going with I'll be patient and hopefully until proven otherwise.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:26 pm to FireGoodell
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The problem with this is, if we are in contention for the #1 pick and draft a QB next year, then picking him in the 2nd was a complete waste and we wouldn’t have even seen him play that much
You have to pick a qb with the 1st pick? Can't pick an offensive lineman? Defensive lineman? Trade the pick for more picks?
Apparently Moore really liked him and that's why he was drafted. Nobody knows how the qb class will be NEXT year. It's silly to say that a pick is a waste because he didn't start the first game of the season......it's almost as silly as saying it was a wasted pick because he didn't start preseason games.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:28 pm to saintsfan22
quote:
There's a 99.9% they'll both start multiple games this season so people being obsessed with who starts the first game was dumb.
Nah I think once Shough takes over they will keep him for the remainder. I truly believe we chose Rattler to stay at the bottom of the league and take pressure off Shough to start the season.
I'd be happy to eat my words if Rattler turns out decent but this feels like an excuse to get a good pick and show obvious proof of failure when we inevitabley replace him as the starter. He showed nothing last year and everyone expects nothing, that's the safest way to play it to temper emotions and expectations.
This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 8/26/25 at 2:29 pm to drizztiger
No surprise...very few rookies start from day 1 regardless of draft pick order.
I don't think Rattler got a fair chance last year and think he may be a lot better than some think.
and im team Shough
I don't think Rattler got a fair chance last year and think he may be a lot better than some think.
and im team Shough
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