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re: Saints making calls to trade up - per Daniel Jeremiah
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:05 am to Balsamic_duck
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:05 am to Balsamic_duck
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So stupid to trade up for a Tackle. We are not a tackle away from competing.
This is exactly it. If you have a tackle graded slightly below another player but they’re the biggest need go for it. But don’t give up multiple valuable picks and cost controlled contracts to fill that need. That’s just asking for more shite.
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Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:08 am to VA LSU fan
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I think Wide Receiver is as big a need as OT
What
Look at our current tackle assets. It’s probably the worst in NFL history.
If there is a run on tackles, you have to do what it takes to get one. It’s not ideal obviously but what are you going to do? The Saints are desperate at OT.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:10 am to DBG
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If there is a run on tackles, you have to do what it takes to get one. It’s not ideal obviously but what are you going to do? The Saints are desperate at OT.
There will be tackles in other rounds that can develop and we aren’t winning shite this year. Draft a guy with a second round grade in the second round and do your job as coaches to develop him.” Doing what it takes” simply to get a guy projected higher is how your entire roster turns to shite really quickly. Especially when you don’t have many high value picks to begin with.
If we were a deep playoff team with a solid young nucleus I’d agree with you. But we’re not. It’s time to stop holding shite together with duct tape.
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 9:12 am
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:15 am to St Augustine
I don’t care about this year, we need a tackle now and in 10 years. Why is everyone so focused on 2024? I thought we were into long term planning…
And sure, you can get Terron Armstead in round 3, it happens. But you know what are the top 3 positions on first round hits? It’s center, tackle, guard, in that order. First round tackles succeed at a better rate than every position except 1.
And sure, you can get Terron Armstead in round 3, it happens. But you know what are the top 3 positions on first round hits? It’s center, tackle, guard, in that order. First round tackles succeed at a better rate than every position except 1.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:18 am to DBG
Yeah but we need multiple players. If you come away with one starter from a draft and have to give away the 2nd rounder or a high pick in next years to get him is it even worth it? We need multiple starters from every draft to move on from this aging roster. That would be a lot more likely if we had even a standard allotment of picks. But as usual we don’t.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:23 am to Handsome Pete
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Every draft, the Saints are an open book
Are you under the impression NFL teams aren’t aware of their competitors needs during the draft?
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:30 am to DBG
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Why is everyone so focused on 2024?
But you are willing to give up future valuable draft capital to move up
They need to not panic and let the draft come to them. Go back to the draft board, stay grounded, there’s only 13 guys who will be gone. There’s 7 first rd tackles. And you still need a guard, there’s a few of those too. Only way to eat an elephant is a bite at a time
They moved up to get Penning and we are still paying for it in both his performance and draft capital. No one should feel comfortable in them identifying a OT to move up for
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:33 am to GynoSandberg
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Only way to eat an elephant is a bite at a time
Gonna steal this
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:33 am to Fun Bunch
Same. Excellent post gyno
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:36 am to DBG
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I don’t care about this year, we need a tackle now and in 10 years. Why is everyone so focused on 2024?
2024 lacks elite OT talent.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:37 am to GynoSandberg
I’m only willing because the position group is THAT bad.
I don’t want to, I’m not rooting for it, but I’m not going to slam the front office if they do.
I don’t want to, I’m not rooting for it, but I’m not going to slam the front office if they do.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:43 am to Lester Earl
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Trading up for an OT would be catastrophic
I suppose if it is your biggest need and you think one guy is a generational player and heads and shoulders better than any of the other options at the position, I get it.
But given OT is thought to be a deep position in this draft, there is likely to be a big run on QBs and WRs ahead of you (could have 7, 8, 9 such players taken in the first 13 picks), it doesn't seem like making a big trade up is wise. Particularly for a team with a lot of need for young players AND only 2 picks in the top 140.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 9:43 am to DBG
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And sure, you can get Terron Armstead in round 3, it happens. But you know what are the top 3 positions on first round hits? It’s center, tackle, guard, in that order. First round tackles succeed at a better rate than every position except 1.
lol, the Saints fans know better. Our braintrust defies the odds.
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 9:56 am
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:14 am to Handsome Pete
Would be stupid to trade up. We need OL but we can get one at 14 or in rd 2. Dennis Allen is a defensive coach. If the top OL guys are gone and Verse is there we need to take him.
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 10:27 am
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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,...at Guard
Woah!!! Last time I checked Guard is a football position!!! Turns out we need those too. But I'm pretty sure he can play where ever we need him to play.
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He also has a degenerative knee, so "long" may be a reach
You're a full of shite troll per usual. Thats why he's one of the few lineman who doesn't have to wear a metal knee brace. Joe alt has to play with two of them
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:55 am to High Life
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Last time I checked Guard is a football position!!! T
We should be able to draft a more valuable guy at 14
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You're a full of shite troll per usual.
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Washington OT Troy Fautanu’s knee was flagged. That one was described to me as the sort of issue that shouldn’t be a problem in the short term, but could wind up impacting his longevity in the pros…
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:57 am to SlowFlowPro
As I was 
Still seems like nothing
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Washington OT Troy Fautanu’s knee was flagged. That one was described to me as the sort of issue that shouldn’t be a problem in the short term, but could wind up impacting his longevity in the pros (though his high football character is a factor in making teams feel like he’ll do all he can to take care of it, and give himself the best chance).
Still seems like nothing
This post was edited on 4/25/24 at 11:01 am
Posted on 4/25/24 at 10:58 am to LSUZombie
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There's significant chatter that Latham will be the first tackle off the board.
I think that’s primarily tied to one team (chargers)
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:00 am to VA LSU fan
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I think Wide Receiver is as big a need as OT.
I get what you're saying, but it don't matter who you got at receiver if you can't block anybody. You could have Randy Moss and Megatron at receiver but your QB can't throw it from his back. By that metric alone, OL is the bigger need.
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:59 am to DBG
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What
Look at our current tackle assets. It’s probably the worst in NFL history.
If there is a run on tackles, you have to do what it takes to get one. It’s not ideal obviously but what are you going to do? The Saints are desperate at OT.
What's the urgency? The ceiling for this team is a loss in the wild card round. We arent a win now situation like the last brees years
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