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re: Realistically, what can we get for Sean Payton?

Posted on 4/10/22 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by Wardniner01
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 4/10/22 at 6:46 pm to
Whomever downvoted, please give a logical reason why?
Posted by Winstonscrabfingers
Member since Oct 2021
542 posts
Posted on 4/10/22 at 7:11 pm to
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thought it was 2026 when his contract ends but still that’s 2 years


5 year deal signed in 2019.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/10/22 at 7:19 pm to
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In my opinion the Saints will not want to burn bridges with Sean so they will not try to totally maximize value for him.


Who gives a frick about that. Payton was a good coach but he isn't Bellicheat, or Noll or Walsh or Shula. If he wants to get pissed over the Saints wanting to get as much as possible he can fricking rot as far I am concerned.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
54246 posts
Posted on 4/10/22 at 7:29 pm to
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In my opinion the Saints will not want to burn bridges with Sean so they will not try to totally maximize value for him. I hope for something like a 1 and a 2 but it could end up being something like two 3s imo


What did you cook your wife's bull for breakfast?
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 4/10/22 at 7:39 pm to
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coaching. In other words, the contract is essentially on hold, since he retired, and restarts if he decides to return.


This would be awesome but I can’t see it working that way.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 4/10/22 at 7:39 pm to
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In my opinion the Saints will not want to burn bridges with Sean


What in the fk
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72514 posts
Posted on 4/10/22 at 8:10 pm to
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In my opinion the Saints will not want to burn bridges with Sean so they will not try to totally maximize value for him. I hope for something like a 1 and a 2 but it could end up being something like two 3s imo


The people downvoting this to hell are likely going to be really pissed.

I’d love for it to be multiple firsts. I highly doubt it is. If he were to go directly to another team this year I think that would absolutely be the case. With there being a buffer year I think it’ll be a second or a couple of thirds or something like that.

Don’t think it’s about burning bridges as much as they’ve just kinda moved on.
This post was edited on 4/10/22 at 8:12 pm
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
8504 posts
Posted on 4/10/22 at 8:30 pm to
Nothing Payton has done tells us he’s going to come back and coach at another team. For all we know he could come back when the saints have an opening.

Speaking of Gruden, he took a break and went back to the raiders.

If he does come back I’m sure he will listen to the saints offer to coach for them if there is an opening.

Also, why on earth would he want to coach under Jerry. People keep saying Dallas but Payton would clash heads with Jerry as a head coach. Payton wants total control like he had at the saints. Everybody knows Jerry won’t give that to a coach.
This post was edited on 4/10/22 at 8:33 pm
Posted by shmashmortion
Member since Feb 2011
509 posts
Posted on 4/10/22 at 8:49 pm to
He’s not coming back to the saints. Pipe dream. He did try to go to other teams prior to all this.

He said he’s not done coaching, so unless he lands some big millions in the tv industry, he will return. Some say he’s worth a couple 1sts. I hope so.
Posted by Wardniner01
Member since Dec 2020
2537 posts
Posted on 4/10/22 at 8:59 pm to
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He’s not coming back to the saints. Pipe dream


This what I don't understand. He won ONE SUPERBOWL with DREW frickING BREES at quarterback. Jimmy Johnson won multiple with the cowboys, granted they had alot of better players, but again that falls on Payton for spotting and developing talent. The superbowl was in his 3rd or 4th year, what since then? Just pretty much screwing up draft position but then again it really didn't matter, he would've traded the 1st pick plus a 2nd for a player that would have been available at 32
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10432 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:16 am to
Just to clarify here....I'm not advocating for us taking a shitty deal, I'm just saying what I could see happening. Sean and this org were together for a long fricking time. When he calls and says he has the itch and wants to go elsewhere, you think he's gonna say to Gail, Dennis and Mickey: "hey guys, yeah, pillage my new org for all they're worth!" ... ? Hell no, he's going to push and prod and try to negotiate a "fair" deal to not hamstring his new team. Because he is the greatest coach in the history of the franchise....I predict they cut him some slack and take less than they could possibly get. Just IMO.

In terms of what I WANT I hope we pillage some poor team for 10 1sts but
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 12:17 am
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
7235 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:32 am to
You don’t trade a current CSP three year contract for a first and second round pick. Lolz
Posted by Winstonscrabfingers
Member since Oct 2021
542 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 1:27 am to
He doesn't get to prod for a deal. He's under contract. Saints hold the cards.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
16385 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 4:40 am to
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When he calls and says he has the itch and wants to go elsewhere, you think he's gonna say to Gail, Dennis and Mickey: "hey guys, yeah, pillage my new org for all they're worth!" ... ? Hell no, he's going to push and prod and try to negotiate a "fair" deal to not hamstring his new team.

So, let me get this straight...

..You think the Saints are like a wife that is being asked by her separated husband to grant a divorce so he can fvck/marry another chick and the wife will give him a break on the alimony/child support so that his new relationship won't be hamstrung financially and that the wife will do this for him since they not only separated amicably, but because the wife hopes she might get him back someday after he's finished fvcking around?
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10432 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 6:41 am to
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He doesn't get to prod for a deal. He's under contract. Saints hold the cards.


And you think they’re going to alienate the best coach in the history of the franchise by playing hardball and potentially losing a deal to a team he wants to go to for a few draft picks? Get a grip
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 6:42 am
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48891 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 7:05 am to
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This would be awesome but I can’t see it working that way.



Did a little more research and it through the 2024 season. So he can return in 2025 without the saints getting compensation.
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 7:09 am
Posted by floyd13
New Orleans Uptown
Member since Sep 2010
1763 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:38 am to
You can get sean to run a double reverse after getting a first down in the red zone against the saints.
Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
5765 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 9:12 am to
Nothing, he won’t come back to coaching for awhile. By the time he does, the Saints won’t have his rights.
Posted by MasterKnight
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
2369 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:20 am to
Again Peyton has 0 leverage in this situation. The Saints do not owe him anything if he wants to coach another team. If Peyton does try to act like that, I hope the Saints ask for more.

Like I said earlier, if he wants to retire and go into broadcasting, fine. If not and he wants to coach, that team will have to pay for his services. There are no discounts bc of what he did. Players don’t ask for discounts. Why should the team award a discount on a coach they have under contract who wants to coach elsewhere?
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20728 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:25 am to
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F that, he choose to leave.

You don’t owe him anything, maximize yourself capital.

Bidding starts at what Gruden got at minimum



This X 1000


But don’t be surprised if it’s one first round pick.

Giving up multiple picks would hurt his chances of winning another Super Bowl (which he won’t)

In any event, the compensation will be a clear tell as to how the Saints fans have been fricked.


I agree

frick him and his egotistical bullshite lying arse

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