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re: Realistically, what can we get for Sean Payton?
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:30 am to tigersquad89
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:30 am to tigersquad89
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Nothing Payton has done tells us he’s going to come back and coach at another team.
You can’t be serious
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:41 am to Louisianabound88
sure sean, you quit on the franchise 1 year removed from having one of the greatest QB's of all time once it got a little hard for you. you continuously say you are going to coach again, just not here. sure thing bud, we will bend over backwards for you and not fetch fair value all for the sake of semantics and not upsetting you
Posted on 4/11/22 at 11:59 am to tigersquad89
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Nothing Payton has done tells us he’s going to come back and coach at another team.
Wrong
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For all we know he could come back when the saints have an opening.
Wrong
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If he does come back I’m sure he will listen to the saints offer to coach for them if there is an opening.
Wrong
Jesus how many bad takes do you want in one post?
Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:00 pm to MasterKnight
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Again Peyton has 0 leverage in this situation. The Saints do not owe him anything if he wants to coach another team. If Peyton does try to act like that, I hope the Saints ask for more.
Like I said earlier, if he wants to retire and go into broadcasting, fine. If not and he wants to coach, that team will have to pay for his services. There are no discounts bc of what he did. Players don’t ask for discounts. Why should the team award a discount on a coach they have under contract who wants to coach elsewhere?
This is all fine and dandy in a robotic madden world where people don't exist. What I'm saying is that Sean worked shoulder to shoulder with the people running this organization for 16 years. They are close. Therefore it's not as simple as you say it is.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:19 pm to Rand AlThor
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What I'm saying is that Sean worked shoulder to shoulder with the people running this organization for 16 years.
They are close.
Therefore it's not as simple as you say it is.
Oh it is very simple.
You get whatever you can and you play hard ball.
These people you speak of in the organization (including Loomis) would be fricking all Saints fans not to get the best deal possible.
Having said that, I wouldn’t be surprised if they did.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:22 pm to Rohan Gravy
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These people you speak of in the organization (including Loomis) would be fricking all Saints fans not to get the best deal possible.
I agree but I think they will see it as being fair to all parties. Getting a decent return but not absolutely pillaging the team he's going to, so he has a chance at success.
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Having said that, I wouldn’t be surprised if they did.
This was my original point that has 100 downvotes on the first page. We all want to get a huge return but I am just predicting we will not
Posted on 4/11/22 at 4:43 pm to Rand AlThor
You think the Saints organization wants SP to succeed at another organization? Give them a chance to win a SuperBowl because he led the Saints to a SB victory 12 years ago? That’s now it works. Do they want him happy? Sure. At the same time, he is under contract and whichever team(s) want him, will have to pay for him.
The reason for your downvotes is bc you feel the Saints owe something to SP when in fact they don’t him anything if he chooses to coach another team. What NFL team cuts a deal with another team with regards to trades? Look at Houston. They wanted 3 first round picks, players for a player going thru a legal process. Easily could have just release him and get him off their hands. They wanted a team to give up a lot. It worked.
The reason for your downvotes is bc you feel the Saints owe something to SP when in fact they don’t him anything if he chooses to coach another team. What NFL team cuts a deal with another team with regards to trades? Look at Houston. They wanted 3 first round picks, players for a player going thru a legal process. Easily could have just release him and get him off their hands. They wanted a team to give up a lot. It worked.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 5:01 pm to MasterKnight
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bc you feel the Saints owe something to SP
No. I don’t feel shite. I said in my other comment, this is me guessing how the people in the org will feel. Not how I feel. I want us to pillage a team for a bounty of picks. We don’t owe him anything, we’ve given him millions of dollars. But when you love someone and you’ve spent more than a decade rubbing shoulders in the trenches with someone, you don’t turn around and do what you’re saying to that person so easily. I expect that is how the team will approach it.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 5:30 pm to Rand AlThor
The Saints by asking fair ( or maybe a bit over fair) market value for him is not doing anything to him. You think it would be a personal attack on SP. It is not. It is against the team he would be coaching (if he chooses to coach again) and that team wants him.
Posted on 4/11/22 at 8:33 pm to Rand AlThor
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I agree but I think they will see it as being fair to all parties.
Getting a decent return but not absolutely pillaging the team he's going to, so he has a chance at success.
OK
So I’m not sure where you are coming from.
Your comment above is totally stupid.
The Saints should play hardball and get whatever they can
And do their very best to pillage his next team.
frick him and his next team.
Let me be clear.
frick him and his next team.
And if the Saints don’t play hardball
And get everything they can for him
And try to pillage his next team
Then frick the Saints
Posted on 4/12/22 at 1:36 am to Louisianabound88
I think some of it depends on where he chooses to go. I think if he wants to go to an AFC team like the Chargers or Miami the Saints will take a fair deal. If it's somewhere in the NFC like Dallas we will play hardball. My guess is he won't go anywhere until his contract is up or a year left. I see him taking a break for at least 2 years.
Posted on 4/13/22 at 7:49 am to Rand AlThor
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And you think they’re going to alienate the best coach in the history of the franchise by playing hardball and potentially losing a deal to a team he wants to go to for a few draft picks? Get a grip
It will be a business/market driven decision for all involved.
Under your scenario, Sean potentially loses millions of dollars and the team seeking his services likely misses out on hiring a Super Bowl winning coach.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:10 pm to Louisianabound88
A couple of his ex’s.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 5:36 am to Louisianabound88
You’ll get nothing.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:03 pm to Louisianabound88
You think with inflation beings as high as it is we should get a nice purse.
But reality is, The Rams didnt want him and his heavy price tag.
You take whatever you can get for him.
ASAP.
The peace loving liberal social justice worrier votes for progressive policies, then leaves when the city becomes too progressive, because his wife is scared. So what they got tailed by some "people"
Who hasnt gotten stalked by said "people" when they go to the Big Easy.
But reality is, The Rams didnt want him and his heavy price tag.
You take whatever you can get for him.
ASAP.
The peace loving liberal social justice worrier votes for progressive policies, then leaves when the city becomes too progressive, because his wife is scared. So what they got tailed by some "people"
Who hasnt gotten stalked by said "people" when they go to the Big Easy.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:16 pm to Rand AlThor
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In my opinion the Saints will not want to burn bridges with Sean so they will not try to totally maximize value for him. I hope for something like a 1 and a 2 but it could end up being something like two 3s imo
This is so silly to me. They aren’t burning bridges when he chose to retire 3 years short of his contract.
It is not going to hurt his feelings that New Orleans would get the most they could for him.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 3:24 pm to Louisianabound88
I’d settle for just a first and third.
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