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No one had Nolan Smith falling to 29
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:31 am
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:31 am
Where a lot of the melt is coming from.
Breese for sure fills a need but no one thought Smith would be there at 29. I hope Breese kicks arse obviously.
I don't care what you say about "not fitting a scheme", dude is a 4.39 badass that you probably take when he falls to you.
Breese for sure fills a need but no one thought Smith would be there at 29. I hope Breese kicks arse obviously.
I don't care what you say about "not fitting a scheme", dude is a 4.39 badass that you probably take when he falls to you.
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Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:33 am to CBandits82
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I don't care what you say about "not fitting a scheme"
Genius reasoning
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:35 am to CBandits82
You mean the edge rusher that had less sacks than bresee last year?
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:35 am to CBandits82
Where would you play him?
Hand on the ground 235lb DE?
Hand on the ground 235lb DE?
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:36 am to LSUZombie
Also the last time we took a player that didn't fit our scheme was Zach Baun, and it's been a failure trying to get him to play a position he's not good at.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 11:39 am
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:37 am to CBandits82
I agree with you in that Nolan is a really good talent with playmaking skills at LBer that you better a have good reason for passing on and letting him fall to the damn Eagles who won the draft last nite as for as I'm concerned. Bresee better be that good reason for them to pass on Nolan.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:38 am to CBandits82
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I don't care what you say about "not fitting a scheme", dude is a 4.39 badass that you probably take when he falls to you
Y’all have to stop this.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:39 am to tucoco
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who won the draft
Ah yes, the teams that "win" the draft and all their picks will be surefire starters and great players. Love how the pundits get this right every year less than 24 hours after the pick.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:42 am to CBandits82
These 2 sentences don't really go together
Can't justify the fact that you think the team should take him because you don't pass on that talent, when 29 players were drafted before him. Therefore, a lot of teams did their evaluation and felt he was worth passing on, regardless of his 40 time.
Also, you don't care what scheme he fits, but the defense primarily plays with a 4 man front and 2 LBers. How many times do they need to fail at drafting a 3-4 OLBer and trying to make them a hands in the ground DE before they stop doing that? And, with one of the best D-lines in college in front of him for the past 2 years, wouldn't his stats be more impressive if he was this can't miss guy? Not saying he won't be great in the NFL, but there's a reason he fell and a reason his stats don't jump out at you
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No one had Nolan Smith falling to 29
I don't care what you say about "not fitting a scheme", dude is a 4.39 badass that you probably take when he falls to you.
Can't justify the fact that you think the team should take him because you don't pass on that talent, when 29 players were drafted before him. Therefore, a lot of teams did their evaluation and felt he was worth passing on, regardless of his 40 time.
Also, you don't care what scheme he fits, but the defense primarily plays with a 4 man front and 2 LBers. How many times do they need to fail at drafting a 3-4 OLBer and trying to make them a hands in the ground DE before they stop doing that? And, with one of the best D-lines in college in front of him for the past 2 years, wouldn't his stats be more impressive if he was this can't miss guy? Not saying he won't be great in the NFL, but there's a reason he fell and a reason his stats don't jump out at you
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:43 am to LSUZombie
When both Carter and Smith are making plays for Philly next season, we'll see how you like laughin at that. The so-called pundits got it right!
The so-called pundits got it right!This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 9:48 am
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:43 am to CBandits82
No one had Smith as a first day pick before the combine. He had the biggest stage to show out on the best defense in the country two years running.
He’s 238lb with short arms and no real pass rush bag. The antithesis of what we need at DE in our scheme. He certainly has a place but it’s ok for a guy to not be a fit
He’s 238lb with short arms and no real pass rush bag. The antithesis of what we need at DE in our scheme. He certainly has a place but it’s ok for a guy to not be a fit
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:46 am to Weekend Warrior79
They were a lot of really good players in the draft that fit these other teams needs more which is why they were taken before a Nolan Smith. I wouldn't say it was a matter of those teams passing on Smith like you're saying.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:47 am to Weekend Warrior79
If you didn't use him as an edge rusher is he just going to usurp Demario Davis or Pete Werner?
He's coming off a pretty serious injury a torn pec but he does play hard and the fact that he fell that far is surprising I guess it must be the injury thing.
The Eagles continue to rack up all these players from George's defense which is pretty amazing.
He's coming off a pretty serious injury a torn pec but he does play hard and the fact that he fell that far is surprising I guess it must be the injury thing.
The Eagles continue to rack up all these players from George's defense which is pretty amazing.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:47 am to tucoco
Just because Smith does well on a much, much better team on a scheme that fits him perfectly, doesn't mean that he would do well for us.
Schemes do matter.
Schemes do matter.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:52 am to Fun Bunch
yeah, schemes matter, but the tape doesn't lie either. Look at the highlights of Smith, he flies to the ball with excellent speed, he makes plays, he puts pressure on a QB, RB or whoever has the ball in the backfield. He's young and teachable and will only get better as a pro as he matures, with the speed he has I wouldn't be surprised to see him develop coverage skills.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:57 am to CBandits82
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I don't care what you say about "not fitting a scheme", dude is a 4.39 badass that you probably take when he falls to you.
So you want a guy that is undersized, injury prone, and never put up any numbers just because he is fast?
These types of guys never work in the NFL. Both Chaisson and Mingo put up better numbers than Smith in college AND were bigger than him and both failed because undersized guys that don't dominate college don't all of sudden dominate NFL tackles.
edit: I am not saying that Mingo and Chaisson weren't good for LSU, just that they didn't dominate like Chase Young or even Arden Key for that one season.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 9:59 am
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:58 am to tucoco
And I think the fact that the Eagles got them like in a lot of people's minds they jump to the conclusion oh well they got a steal cuz all they do is pick good players.
They could just as easily whiff on this one who knows.
They could just as easily whiff on this one who knows.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 10:01 am
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:00 am to Geemoney
I'm not commenting on the pick but you just use a half sack difference to prove a point over a guy that missed 7 games.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 10:01 am
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:01 am to tucoco
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They were a lot of really good players in the draft that fit these other teams needs more which is why they were taken before a Nolan Smith. I wouldn't say it was a matter of those teams passing on Smith like you're saying.
So kind of like the Saints biggest need being at DT? You even argued against yourself in this one.
Smith is a very good talent, but is not a player that is guaranteed to be successful. He needs to be in the right system to succeed, and no one is really sure how he will translate from his injury based purely on some drills at the combine.
Saints went for the bigger need and got a player with a ton of potential that showed out better than Smith statistically for each's position.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:02 am to LooseCannon22282
yes, you're right, they could very well whiff on one of them.
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