re: Mickey’s “borrow from the future” philosophy is flawed according to AI

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You have to stop broadcasting how stupid you are.

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Ok how much of a hit will he be then? You tell me

These are POTENTIAL pitfalls, yes, for teams that don't understand how to do it properly. The Panthers, for instance, MASSIVELY fricked up attempting it and literally had to tear down what they built (which eventually lead them to Cam, and we all know how that went). We have been doing it HEAVILY since 2010 (and even years prior to a degree) and have never had to reboot because we actually understand the process and how not to do it incorrectly.

Also, I see some OVER AND OVER AND OVER bring up failed signings and picks, but these happen to LITERALLY every team. The Patriots, famous for their ability to stock pile picks, were also HORRENDOUS at making good picks. Their hit rate on starters and long term contributors was far lower than most teams, but covered up by the fact that they took way more shots than most year after year.

And then the players that get injured, and people whine about them like it's something personally inflicted by Loomis upon the players.

But I'll break down these points and how they apply (or don't) to us particularly.

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Future Cap Strain: Utilizing future cap space can lead to significant financial strain in subsequent years. Teams may find themselves with limited flexibility when trying to sign or retain players, as they will have already allocated a portion of their future cap to past contracts.

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Already proven false for us by again and again retaining the player's we feel come at reasonable costs while also signing big FAs year after year.

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Player Retention Issues: If a team is heavily reliant on cap manipulation, it may struggle to retain key players. As cap space tightens, the team might have to make tough decisions about which players to keep and which to let go.

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This is just an extension of point 1, which is already proven false for us. We let go of players we deem as getting over the price we value them for, but retain those we deem reasonable. Just this year, Adebo got a contract I'm sure the Saints thought was way over what they were willing to touch (and fans agreed), but also resigned Young to a big contract, showing that they choose the players they deem important enough worth paying the big salaries.

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Increased Dead Money: When teams restructure contracts, they often convert base salaries into signing bonuses, which can lead to higher dead money charges if a player is released or traded. This can limit a team's ability to make roster changes in the future.

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This is also something said in the first point (getting a theme here that the first point was a catch all and unneeded), and also something that hasn't proven a hindrance to our process.

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Short-Term Focus: Relying on cap manipulation can encourage a short-term mindset, prioritizing immediate success over long-term sustainability. This can lead to a cycle of poor decision-making, where a team continually sacrifices future flexibility for short-term gains.

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We are focused on both the short and long term, which is why we continue to do this year after year. Sure some teams over commit and try to only win now (see the aforementioned Panthers above who pushed TOO far in and had to kill it), but we try to win now and later.

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Increased Risk of Rebuilding: If a team struggles and needs to rebuild, having borrowed heavily against future caps can make the transition more difficult. Teams may find themselves in a position where they have to shed talented players to free up cap space, which can hinder their rebuilding efforts.

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The name of this point and what it describes are actually not the same thing. It should say increased time needed on a rebuild. But we have never needed or tried to rebuild. We always just retool, year after year, and keep chugging along.

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Fan and Media Scrutiny: Teams that frequently manipulate the cap can face scrutiny from fans and media regarding their financial practices. This can lead to a negative perception of the team's management and long-term strategy.

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Well, this is the first one that actually applies to us! xD

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Limited Competitive Edge: If a team is unable to adapt to changing player market conditions due to cap constraints, it may struggle to remain competitive against teams that manage their cap space more effectively.

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This is a tricky one because it only takes into account a small aspect of a much larger puzzle. Injuries, coaching, missed fgs or tackles, bad play calls on 3rd and longs over a decade (seriously, Allen had shite play calls on 3rd and longs for 10 years here from 2015 to 2024). But this point I can say I can't completely rule out as we have had up and down years, but overall, even in a shorter window like 2020 to 2024, we have only ever been mediocre at worst. We have never fallen into the doldrums, and have had years of great success.

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Injury Risks: If a team prioritizes signing players to large contracts with significant bonuses, they may be more vulnerable to the risks associated with injuries. A player’s performance may decline, or they may be unable to play due to injury, leaving the team with a costly contract and limited options.

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This literally has nothing to do with can kicking. This is just a signing a big FA for big money problem that EVERY team runs into.

So in summary, the vast majority of these are pitfalls we have not fallen into, and the one that we might kind of is only small portion of what makes a team competitive.

Unless you want to count that asinine fan and media scrutiny one, then we REALLY suck because of that.

Awesome response goat cause y’all feel differently because it’s convenient to sky skream piss and moan

Bone mick and 504 vs the world

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when you draft well and have a franchise qb.

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Cool but this has little to do w cap or no cap and it failed when we did have drew cause you know INJURIES!!!

So let us get this straight.
According to you drafting well and a franchise QB has little to do with cap.

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Cool but this has little to do w cap or no cap and it failed when we did have drew cause you know INJURIES!!!

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When you are paying a qb 40 mil a yr you have to manage the cap differently than you would if you have a qb on a rookie contract.

It has everything to do with it. When you draft well you don’t need to dump a bunch of money on free agents. You also can let players walk at times. Drafting well is the cure for bad cap management. We have no money, no players any other team wants, and no depth or super stars. We were dead in the water going into 2017. No cap, mediocre team, one draft reset the entire organization for 5 years.

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The reality lies somewhere in the middle

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I agree but I think Loomis goes too far with it.