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Jeremy Fowler says Saints really don’t want to fire DA

Posted on 12/14/23 at 12:35 am
Posted by Pels_Yaz
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 12:35 am
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Unfortunately unless the Saints get blown out these last 4 games seems like DA might be back. Which is sad considering hes done a horrible job this season. I just am flabbergasted that anyone looks at this team and thinks DA has this team going in the right direction. Also, all this may change after 4 games and not sure how credible Fowler is.
Posted by higgsBoson
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:03 am to
I don’t expect them to fire Allen unless they lose out. And really I think it’s better for a franchise to give their coaches time. I don’t think Allen deserves it because he’s genuinely a bad head coach, but I understand them wanting to give their head coach more than two seasons. Especially with Carr on the books. I don’t see it making sense to jettison Allen when you’re saddling the next guy with Carr’s horrible contract.
Posted by SaintlyTiger88
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:04 am to
It’s a good ole boys club in the Saints front office and Allen is a part of it. He’s not going anywhere.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:11 am to
Eh two wrongs dont make a right in my opinion. Just cause you’re stuck with Carr doesn’t mean you have to keep DA. If anything it might be better for a new head coach who doesn’t have ties to Carr to assess him more fairly than DA. A new coach also might draft a qb even with Carr on the team. Carr is a bad qb and a bad leader- I don’t think that’ll magically change next season even if we get a new off coord and keep DA.
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
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Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:17 am to
Not sure i believe this. Loomis has said as recently as last year that they do their end of the year evaluations a few weeks after the season. If thats the case, i dont think Loomis and company know what they will do yet much less Fowler knows.


This was said last year

quote:

“Yeah I think, well, first of all,” Loomis said during his weekly WWL radio spot with Mike Hoss, gathering his thoughts, “I would like to take a little bit of a break here and let the emotions of this season dissipate, so we can view it from a lens that is a step back. We’ll kind of step back this week and then get into those evaluations that you’re talking about next week, and eventually formulate our plans for this offseason.”

Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:18 am to
Team is fricked
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:18 am to
They may ultimately keep him. But everything i saw from Fowler just reads as speculation and not as someone who has spoken with anyone.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:23 am to
K so can we PLEASE stop rooting for heckn losses now?

TIa
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:27 am to
No I’m rooting for losses. Because if they lose these next 4 games and they’re bad losses- it’ll give more incentive for Mickey to fire DA and make this team better.

You can live in your rainbow filled fairy tale land where you think this team is a competitive playoff team and stress about who’s starting game threads and what uniforms they wear.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:31 am to
Yeah I don’t think any evaluation has been made as of yet and like I said I’m not sure I trust Fowler. That being said this could just be more of temperature check currently on where Loomis is right now and how he views DA and his job status. Like I said these 4 games will likely determine DAs season but unless he gets blown out in all 4- my gut tells me DA will be back although I would prefer otherwise.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:32 am to
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No I’m rooting for losses.


Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:33 am to
Yes agreed keeping DA is dumb lol
Posted by LSUTigresFan
SE Louisiana to Austin (Texas Ex)
Member since Mar 2013
6962 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:14 am to
When is Dennis Lauscha gonna step in and take care of this crap. That is who we need to be calling for to make a move if Loomis doesn't.
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 2:15 am
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
74135 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 4:55 am to
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I don’t expect them to fire Allen unless they lose out. And really I think it’s better for a franchise to give their coaches time. I don’t think Allen deserves it because he’s genuinely a bad head coach, but I understand them wanting to give their head coach more than two seasons. Especially with Carr on the books. I don’t see it making sense to jettison Allen when you’re saddling the next guy with Carr’s horrible contract.


Why delay the inevitable?

Reich didn't even last a season.

Why did Loomis go this route to begin with? Especially after hiring Sean Payton. Why would you not go back to that formula? Give me a young offensive minded coordinator that is a rising star over this. And if he fails he fails, but Allen has shown who he is as a HC.
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 4:57 am
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17183 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:00 am to
D.A. will and should be given an opportunity to make the necessary changes to his staff to get the Saints back on track.

If he doesn't feel that changes are necessary or simply chooses to not make those changes then Mickey (Or whomever the GM is at the time ) will be given the chance to make the necessary changes to the staff to get the Saints back on track.



Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19624 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:12 am to
If he goes 8-9 (which I think he will), he will have gone 15-19 (44% win percentage) in two seasons. Nothing to write home about, but not Hue Jackson bad. I 100% believe he didn't fire Pete Carmichael during the season because he will use him as an out to buy himself another year. He can say he tried to do it the Sean Payton way, but it doesn't work and he wants to revamp the offense to match his D.

IMO, there is a 90% chance he is still the head coach next year.
Posted by Deplorable Duke
Lousyana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:22 am to
DA = Dumb arse
Posted by Redzone762
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Member since Nov 2018
238 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 6:49 am to
MAGA now stands for Make Allen Go Away
Posted by JRE1980
Member since Aug 2020
547 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 7:51 am to
So IF they do fire him, who is a serious possible replacement for him? Like, a realistic option, not some crazy trade possibility deal.
Posted by higgsBoson
Democratic Party
Member since Jan 2012
1627 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:08 am to
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So IF they do fire him, who is a serious possible replacement for him? Like, a realistic option, not some crazy trade possibility deal.


There are plenty of good coordinators in the league. But realistically Allen’s job might come down to the market for coaches. I’m sure they’ve started gauging interest. Unfortunately we have an aging roster without a lot of young talent and no cap space. Not sure how attractive the job is.
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