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re: Javonte Williams contract is why Love should not be the pick at 8

Posted on 2/22/26 at 9:35 am to
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
2404 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 9:35 am to
The fact that you think Olave had one good year makes me question your intelligence. Olave and his production isn’t the issue. It’s his health. I also don’t know many who loved the idea of giving up the capital we did for him. Olave and his talent are undeniable. It’s his health. I think you need to go look at his production and consider the fact that it came with Guys like Jameis and Dalton at qb.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290862 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 9:44 am to
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I also don’t know many who loved the idea of giving up the capital we did for him


You don’t read this board ? Conversely, if you can acknowledge this, you should understand why his performance has not met the standard it needs to.
Posted by hugo_boss
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
1042 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 9:59 am to
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Reggie destroyed the Cardinals in the playoffs almost single-handedly. Reggie and Pierre complemented each other nicely, neither was "more important". That said, there would have been no Super Bowl for the Saints if not for #2 draft pick Reggie Bush.


Reggie had a great game against a Cardinals team that the Saints beat by 30+. 1/3 of his yards came from a play when the Saints were already up 20. He ran with more determination that game but saying he single handedly destroyed them is quite the over exaggeration.

The Saints not making the Superbowl without Reggie is a unprovable theory but also not totally relevant to the discussion of the value of taking a RB high in the 1st. In a vacuum, Reggie was not worthy of the number 2 pick nor the money he was paid based on his on field production. He had 800 APY the Superbowl season. He made zero probowls in his career. The only reason he is given grace is because the Saints won a Superbowl.
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
34534 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 10:00 am to
I honestly don’t get the love hype. I watched his highlights and I didn’t see anything impressive
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
13188 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 10:08 am to
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I watched his highlights and I didn’t see anything impressive

Exactly what highlights were you watching then??
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76462 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 10:13 am to
With Tyler at QB Olave showed what everyone said pre draft about him was true. “He is by far the best most polished route runner in this draft and the most ready day one receiver”.

Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27529 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:36 am to
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How many playoff appearances have they had since drafting him?


Lol like that has any correlation. The penix/cousins Morris combo is why they haven't made the playoffs, and Bijan is a top winning player for them.
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8296 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 11:56 am to
This team isn't one player away.
This team lacks talent. When they pick at #8, take the best player available.
If it is Love, I'm good with it.
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
2404 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 1:19 pm to
What the fuk are you talking about? That’s the point. Bijan isn’t a true difference maker in a franchise. No running back has. The falcons had so many holes on that team and they chose a running back and have stayed drafting in the top 10. So you think the saints should do the same? This team needs a pass rusher, a DT, WRs, and two guards. And somehow people think a running back is the best option. That is wild.
Posted by hugo_boss
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
1042 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 1:29 pm to
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statpadr

Bush was one of the greatest decoys ever. Teams would be so focused on stopping him that everyone else was wide open a lot of the time.




I took out a sentence about how you know Reggie wasn't worth the pick because people have to say this in order to add value to him, because my brain kept wanting to say "distraction". "Decoy" is the term I was looking for
This post was edited on 2/22/26 at 1:33 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15056 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 1:38 pm to
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Bijan is a top winning player for them.


Except they haven’t won anything with him in a horrible division.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
13239 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 2:09 pm to
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Y’all were fine giving a similar purse to draft Olave


Who is this yall? I have been a vocal proponnet of not paying that guy a dime.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27529 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 2:15 pm to
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Except they haven’t won anything with him in a horrible division.


Hes one of the only reasons they win anything. The penix/cousins debacle is why they arent winning the division, unless you think Bijan makes them bad qbs
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76462 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 2:28 pm to
How many new HCs and staffs has the birds had in the last five years? Three? Why blame first rounder for that.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74444 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 4:33 pm to
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That’s the point. Bijan isn’t a true difference maker in a franchise. No running back has


Because they haven’t won anything? Are Myles Garrett and Jamarr Chase true difference makers? Kyle Pitts? Derrick Brown? Sauce Gardner ? These are top 10 picks.

No non QB is solely transforming a franchise. By your math you’d only draft QBs, who are the only true franchise difference makers. Drafting Love if Rattler is your QB is dumb. If Shough is your guy, you’re building around him. We have a litany of picks and money to address needs. We need to find studs when we can
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
2404 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 5:03 pm to
You’re missing the entire point. Yes, if your only weak position is running back then sure, draft him. This team is in a really bad spot still and have massive holes in elite positions such as pass rusher and wide receiver and the oline. Nobody can name a single running back selected in the top 10 that was the true missing piece to a contender. There isn’t a single example.

If you’re the falcons right now, would you rather have Bijan or Carter? The giants took Barkley over Lamar and Josh Allen. Ashton Jeanty? Would the raiders still select him? They’re now starting first overall. Please name a running back selected in the top 10 that truly turned a team into a contender? The other side of this is the value of it. They don’t last long. You can also find equal to or more production in the later rounds at running back. Running back is the one of the least valuable positions in all of football. They’re paid the least, you need multiple ones, and they truly rely on so many other positions to succeed.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76462 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 5:07 pm to
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name a running back selected in the top 10 that truly turned a team into a contender?


What players have? Parsons played at dallas and? Then Green Bay who went where with little juice.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74444 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 5:31 pm to
Contenders don’t pick in the top 10, bad teams do. Which is why you’re hard pressed to name any non QBs who went in the top 10 who really turned around their organization. When you find one you will see the common denominator is they had a good QB

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Bijan or Carter?


Their record is no different with Carter

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The giants took Barkley over Lamar and Josh Allen.


We are talking about non QBs. We aren’t drafting a QB. Do you think the Giants are any better with Denzel ward or Bradley Chubb or Quentin Nelson?[

quote]Ashton Jeanty? Would the raiders still select him?[/quote]

Theyre picking first whether they take Jeanty, McMillan, membou, banks, Loveland


Your “successful” top 10 picks all had QBs. If Shough is who we think Love will be a successful pick. He will be here 5 years minimum, we aren’t winning the SB next year with anyone we take. Tate or whoever else could be labeled a good pick with Shough runnin the offense. Too many want to look at this in a vacuum.

Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
2404 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 5:40 pm to
A ton of players have. This can’t be a real question. I’ll give you one without even looking into it. Jamar chase and the bengals. They instantlly had one of if not the best wr in football and went to the Super Bowl. This isn’t 1996. There’s a reason most teams don’t select running backs early. You can find them in much later rounds and even as udfa
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76462 posts
Posted on 2/22/26 at 6:10 pm to
There is a 99% chance of picking a top ten player No stress this draft.


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