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re: Jarvis Landry To The Saints?
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:32 am to bluebarracuda
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:32 am to bluebarracuda
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Yep. Around 7m is where I'd start getting interested.
Not interested apparently. Less than half of what Adams just got?
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:33 am to Brettesaurus Rex
Wouldn't you guys rather Paul Richardson or marqise Lee?
They'd likely be cheaper and can run more routes than Landry. They also complement Thomas better than Landry.
If this staff can fix Ginn's hands, I'd bank they can do that for Lee.
They'd likely be cheaper and can run more routes than Landry. They also complement Thomas better than Landry.
If this staff can fix Ginn's hands, I'd bank they can do that for Lee.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:38 am to htran90
Richardson would be a great add
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:40 am to htran90
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Wouldn't you guys rather Paul Richardson or marqise Lee?
Uh....no?
Since Snead went to shite last year our 3rd down conversion rate plummeted from its usual 1-3 in the league to about 17th IIRC. That's no coincidence. Landry is a slot machine and he'd be a perfect fit as a mainstay with Thomas.
There's probably 3 more wins on our schedule had we simply converted a 3/4 and short. Atlanta, Tampa, and in the playoffs at Minnesota. We very easily could have lost to the Panthers in the playoffs not converting twice on our last drive. We couldn't do that without Snead playing well or a go to TE like Graham/Watson.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 11:41 am
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:46 am to Brettesaurus Rex
Landry
Year Team G Rec Yds Y/G Avg 100+ TD Rush Yds Y/G Avg 100+ TD Lost Yds TD Yds TD
2014 MIA 16 84 758 47.4 9.0 0 5 2 -4 -.3 -2.0 0 0 4 954 0 204 0
2015 MIA 16 111 1159 72.4 10.4 3 4 17 111 6.9 6.5 0 1 0 321 0 356 1
2016 MIA 16 94 1136 71.0 12.1 4 4 5 17 1.1 3.4 0 0 2 0 0 163 0
2017 MIA 16 112 987 61.7 8.8 0 9 1 -7 -.4 -7.0 0 0 2 -5 0 81 0
Richardson
Year Team G Rec Yds Y/G Avg 100+ TD Rush Yds Y/G Avg 100+ TD Lost Yds TD Yds TD
2014 SEA 15 29 271 18.1 9.3 0 1 0 0 .0 .0 0 0 0 376 0 0 0
2015 SEA 1 1 40 40.0 40.0 0 0 0 0 .0 .0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2016 SEA 15 21 288 19.2 13.7 0 1 1 5 .3 5.0 0 0 0 105 0 0 0
2017 SEA 16 44 703 43.9 16.0 1 6 0 0 .0 .0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Year Team G Rec Yds Y/G Avg 100+ TD Rush Yds Y/G Avg 100+ TD Lost Yds TD Yds TD
2014 MIA 16 84 758 47.4 9.0 0 5 2 -4 -.3 -2.0 0 0 4 954 0 204 0
2015 MIA 16 111 1159 72.4 10.4 3 4 17 111 6.9 6.5 0 1 0 321 0 356 1
2016 MIA 16 94 1136 71.0 12.1 4 4 5 17 1.1 3.4 0 0 2 0 0 163 0
2017 MIA 16 112 987 61.7 8.8 0 9 1 -7 -.4 -7.0 0 0 2 -5 0 81 0
Richardson
Year Team G Rec Yds Y/G Avg 100+ TD Rush Yds Y/G Avg 100+ TD Lost Yds TD Yds TD
2014 SEA 15 29 271 18.1 9.3 0 1 0 0 .0 .0 0 0 0 376 0 0 0
2015 SEA 1 1 40 40.0 40.0 0 0 0 0 .0 .0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2016 SEA 15 21 288 19.2 13.7 0 1 1 5 .3 5.0 0 0 0 105 0 0 0
2017 SEA 16 44 703 43.9 16.0 1 6 0 0 .0 .0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Posted on 2/16/18 at 11:56 am to htran90
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marqise Lee
No on draft day and still no today.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:11 pm to Brageous
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Thomas and Landry
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Two absolute studs
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Landry
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absolute stud
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:37 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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Uh....no?
Since Snead went to shite last year our 3rd down conversion rate plummeted from its usual 1-3 in the league to about 17th IIRC. That's no coincidence. Landry is a slot machine and he'd be a perfect fit as a mainstay with Thomas.
There's probably 3 more wins on our schedule had we simply converted a 3/4 and short. Atlanta, Tampa, and in the playoffs at Minnesota. We very easily could have lost to the Panthers in the playoffs not converting twice on our last drive. We couldn't do that without Snead playing well or a go to TE like Graham/Watson.
Landry at 11-12
Lee or richardson at 7-8
Burton at 5-6
Im not denying that Landry isn't an amazing slot receiver, but if the cost is as substantial as what he's asking than he isn't worth it. I think Richardson can help 3rd down by opening things up for kamara, Ingram, and Thomas.
He can also help you open things up for them on 1st and 2nd down.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:46 pm to Chad504boy
that's cool but really wanted Jimmy back or a tightend that is not made of glass.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:57 pm to King George
You know he holds rookie records right? He is a stud. frick off, bitch.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:02 pm to saintsalwaysnumber1
Fleener got 7.2 million a few years ago. You think Landry a few years later is going to sign at 7 million to 9 million.
I think a 3 yr. 33 million deal with 15 million being guaranteed is a good price.
I'd rather have Landy at 11 million to 14 million than Fleener and some other 6 million dollar receiver.
I think a 3 yr. 33 million deal with 15 million being guaranteed is a good price.
I'd rather have Landy at 11 million to 14 million than Fleener and some other 6 million dollar receiver.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:09 pm to Meateye
But no one is saying we are interested. I mean I’m sure they are somewhat but they aren’t paying this dude 12 mil+
This is just some speculation from a site I’ve never heard of
This is just some speculation from a site I’ve never heard of
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:31 pm to Chad504boy
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pretty sure Loomis might do this just to piss Lester off.
i dont dislike Landry at all. But there are cheaper options that will do the same thing or very similar. We are not in position to add money to the WR position Especially considering they just traded Cooks' great contract, among other reasons .
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:33 pm to Lester Earl
and i just read this whole thread. Goddamn our fans don't learn
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:39 pm to Lester Earl
I hope we do it just to see you melt.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:41 pm to Meateye
Three things immediately came to mind after seeing this post:
1. Historically-speaking, the slot WR is very important in this offense. Saints slot WRs typically get over 1,000 receiving yards a year (not 2017, sure, but historically yes). Just as having an above-average RB who can play the "joker" enhances this offense, so does an above-average slot WR.
2. Speaking of above-average, both Juice and Michael Thomas are at the top of the league in catch percentage/target conversion. Couple that w/ a QB who completes 65-70% of his passes...perhaps that helps mitigate the average to below-average TE play (which, honestly, has historically been the case outside of some of Shockey's time and Graham, of course).
3. If the Saints are actually going to have an LSU player on its roster, might as go for one of the best in the league.
1. Historically-speaking, the slot WR is very important in this offense. Saints slot WRs typically get over 1,000 receiving yards a year (not 2017, sure, but historically yes). Just as having an above-average RB who can play the "joker" enhances this offense, so does an above-average slot WR.
2. Speaking of above-average, both Juice and Michael Thomas are at the top of the league in catch percentage/target conversion. Couple that w/ a QB who completes 65-70% of his passes...perhaps that helps mitigate the average to below-average TE play (which, honestly, has historically been the case outside of some of Shockey's time and Graham, of course).
3. If the Saints are actually going to have an LSU player on its roster, might as go for one of the best in the league.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:49 pm to ffhouston
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3. If the Saints are actually going to have an LSU player on its roster, might as go for one of the best in the league.
Beckham
Peterson
Mathieu
Whitworth
Jones
Fournette
White
Are all better or in the same zip code
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:52 pm to LSUZombie
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Spend the money and get Brees every weapon conceivable for the final 2-3 year push. I'm all for this.
Agreed. The below-average 3rd round conversion percentage wasn't a failure of scheme, but of personnel. A premium slot WR who is a precise route runner, is physical, a savage run blocker and has a 70+ percentage catch rate should do much to fix that specific problem.
Also, I agree that the Saints shouldn't expect him to offer a home-town discount, but I would expect him to consider a "I'll take a bit below market to win a championship instead of breaking the bank to lose 10-16 games a year in Cleveland" discount.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:54 pm to lsutigers1992
Well, yeah, but I'm talking about FAs. If the Falcons are down with cutting Debo so we can sign him, I'm all for it!
Posted on 2/16/18 at 3:03 pm to htran90
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They'd likely be cheaper and can run more routes than Landry. They also complement Thomas better than Landry.
Tranny, you’re spot on here
Michael Thomas is already one of the best slot WR in the league. Fresh off leading the league in slot yards per route run. SP will not pony up for a Landry when he has a Thomas and even a Snead. And the RBs. We have enough intermediate pass catchers to wet Brees’ beak
Spend money on a guy who can get up the seam at TE or a more vertical WR threat who’s more versatile than Ginn.
I would buy a trey burton before a Landry
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