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Immediate Future Draft Picks
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:07 am
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:07 am
There’s been a shite ton of posts about how the Eagles have our first rounder next year. At the moment, we have no idea what that pick will be but at the moment it is a Top 5 pick. I’m not happy with trading that but can we stop with the “trading our entire future” rhetoric.
Last time I checked, we still have our 2nd, 3rd, 4th, two 5ths, and a 6th in next years draft. Again, I would love to have the first too but honestly draft wise, we aren’t in bad shape. Plus I imagine if we were going to get a QB in the draft, those picks could be used to trade up again or sit back. What is key is who will be picking and when.
The most QBs taken in the first round is 6 (1983
Draft). So if we have a top 5 pick, then that second rounder will be key as well as the other picks to get new players in.
My fear is the salary gap hell we are going to be in, and next year may be the year to tank intentionally to rebuild. But I hate the Eagles are built on us comments when honestly, the Olave trade is not the worst one ever. We already did that one in 1999.
Last time I checked, we still have our 2nd, 3rd, 4th, two 5ths, and a 6th in next years draft. Again, I would love to have the first too but honestly draft wise, we aren’t in bad shape. Plus I imagine if we were going to get a QB in the draft, those picks could be used to trade up again or sit back. What is key is who will be picking and when.
The most QBs taken in the first round is 6 (1983
Draft). So if we have a top 5 pick, then that second rounder will be key as well as the other picks to get new players in.
My fear is the salary gap hell we are going to be in, and next year may be the year to tank intentionally to rebuild. But I hate the Eagles are built on us comments when honestly, the Olave trade is not the worst one ever. We already did that one in 1999.
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:08 am to Mister Flawless
You didn't even mention our 2024 2nd rounder going to philly as well. At least paint the correct picture.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:11 am to Chad504boy
To be fair, no one else does either. But fine, we are without our 2nd in 2024 also. Still not as bad as 1999
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:13 am to Mister Flawless
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Still not as bad as 1999
Stop bringing the ricky williams trade into the discussion. Its really not relevant or even comparable.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:14 am to Mister Flawless
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Still not as bad as 1999
I just had higher expectations for this regime over the dynamic duo of Ditka and Kuharich
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:20 am to LSUZombie
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Ditka and Kuharich
You just made me have a cold chill down my spine with that combo.
As far as the, stop bringing up 1999, look I mention it because so many on here make it out like we gave up an entire draft. Well wouldn’t you know it, we have seen that before. Hell, even mention the Davenport trade, and people still joke about us giving Green Bay 10 first rounders.
The point I’m making is we aren’t in this dire strait of draft capital as one may think. It’s sucks we don’t have a first yes, but we could make moves to be fine if we are going after a QB. That’s all I’m saying.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:23 am to Mister Flawless
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My fear is the salary gap hell we are going to be in, and next year may be the year to tank intentionally to rebuild
Best way to get out of cap hell is to load up on rookie contracts. Best rookies typically go early in the draft. Saints historically package early picks to move up; there by, reducing the number of potential new blood to help alleviate cap pressure
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:24 am to Mister Flawless
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Last time I checked, we still have our 2nd, 3rd, 4th, two 5ths, and a 6th in next years draft.
There is a bigger correlation in 1st round picks at QB having more success than 2nd and beyond.
There are exceptions but let's be real here. We need a QB. I don't want another Garrett Grayson reach.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:25 am to Mister Flawless
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You just made me have a cold chill down my spine with that combo.
As far as the, stop bringing up 1999, look I mention it because so many on here make it out like we gave up an entire draft. Well wouldn’t you know it, we have seen that before. Hell, even mention the Davenport trade, and people still joke about us giving Green Bay 10 first rounders.
The point I’m making is we aren’t in this dire strait of draft capital as one may think. It’s sucks we don’t have a first yes, but we could make moves to be fine if we are going after a QB. That’s all I’m saying.
Did you bring up the 1st round picks we got from trading ricky to miami? You're whole premise is shite. The worst trade Saints ever did was trading two first rd picks for Jonathan Sullivan in 2003.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:31 am to Weekend Warrior79
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Saints historically package early picks to move up; there by, reducing the number of potential new blood to help alleviate cap pressure
Saints are going to have to change their strategy now. No longer is there a super deep roster with a veteran QB who can lead the team to the playoffs each year.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:32 am to Bottom9
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There is a bigger correlation in 1st round picks at QB having more success than 2nd and beyond.
There are exceptions but let's be real here. We need a QB. I don't want another Garrett Grayson reach.
I wouldn't be shocked at one more year of Andy Dalton
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:40 am to Mister Flawless
Honestly, we can blame all of this on Jameis. The front office thought they had their guy and sacrificed some of the future to go after it this year. On paper, the defense should’ve been just as good as last year or maybe better. Then you add an all-pro receiver coming off of injury, a top rookie wide receiver and a vet pro bowl receiver. On paper this team is a legit contender. They are missing one huge piece. A Qb
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:44 am to Chad504boy
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Did you bring up the 1st round picks we got from trading ricky to miami? You're whole premise is shite. The worst trade Saints ever did was trading two first rd picks for Jonathan Sullivan in 2003.
You know a draft is more than just first rounders, right? And what is your obsession with adding more variables to my premise.
The worst trade by far is the Ricky trade. Why? Because the next year, Haslett had to sign damn near every free agent to make a roster. Plus, we had no 1st and 3rd in 2000. Thankfully we hit on those limited picks. But what happens when you sign a bunch of 1 year FAs, salary cap gets eaten up. That was Hasletts MO during his regime.
The Sullivan trade was bad, no doubt. But it did not have the effect that the Ricky trade did, even with the return you noted when we traded him to Miami.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:46 am to Mister Flawless
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And what is your obsession with adding more variables to my premise.
they aren't variables, they are the rest of the details of the results of a trade.
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The worst trade by far is the Ricky trade.
bullshite. not even close.
ricky gave our shite team 4221 yds from scrimmage in 3 years plus 2 first round picks back when we traded him.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 9:49 am
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:48 am to BigPerm30
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They are missing one huge piece. A Qb
And a defense
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:14 am to Chad504boy
So Ricky’s productivity and return on trade versus the immediate roster gaps we had to fill, which limited our potential window with Ricky. That’s your argument. Hell even in your own argument, 4000 yards and 2 firsts isn’t worth an entire draft.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:19 am to Chad504boy
Which could basically be a late 1st rounder as we will be bottom of the league again next season. No $ for free agency and stuck with bums that are a waste of over $100 Million as a group.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:32 am to Mister Flawless
Well…
We don’t have a franchise QB, it’s nearly impossible to win in the modern NFL without one, and having a top 5 pick is one of the few ways to get reliable access to one…
That probably has something to do with the anger over that trade
We don’t have a franchise QB, it’s nearly impossible to win in the modern NFL without one, and having a top 5 pick is one of the few ways to get reliable access to one…
That probably has something to do with the anger over that trade
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:44 am to BigPerm30
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Honestly, we can blame all of this on Jameis. The front office thought they had their guy and sacrificed some of the future to go after it this year. On paper, the defense should’ve been just as good as last year or maybe better. Then you add an all-pro receiver coming off of injury, a top rookie wide receiver and a vet pro bowl receiver. On paper this team is a legit contender. They are missing one huge piece. A Qb
The problems on this team are bigger than a qb. Obviously that is the #1 concern going forward but this team has regressed.
Defense is a shell of itself.
D-line has been horrible.
Linebackers are elite.
Corners have gotten smoked.(embarrassing)
Safeties haven't looked much better.
Posted on 10/18/22 at 10:48 am to Mister Flawless
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the Olave trade is not the worst one ever. We already did that one in 1999.
100% wrong on this. That trade got us back two number one picks. Of course we blew them in typical saints fashion.
Think Davenport could get us two number ones right now? Ricky did.
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