re: If the Saints lose Vilma, should Mickey Loomis be fired?

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He signed Drew Brees and Randall Gay, and McCray. Then picked up undrafted Pierre Thomas, Lance Moore,Billy Miller, Lake, Charleston, and the two kicker.

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is this really the argument for loomis?

brees looks great, but we only got him because the dolphins' Drs would not let saban sign him

otherwise that list is

I'm nérvous buds need to spend to get over salary floor and missed out on haynesworth

I was thinking the same thing they could have paid haynesworth and villa this year with huge roster bonuses and had them really cheap rest of way but don't know bout 7 yr deal for haynes will still cost at least 8m to cut with two yrs left on deal

If Vilma leaves, then the Saints basically lost him so they could have Shockey. They lost the best defensive player on a team that desperatly needs defense for a TE. That and they gave up a 3rd round pick to add insult to injury. That is a terrible deal. Loomis needs to be shown the door if this happens.

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Loomis needs to be shown the door if this happens

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Don't absolve Payton of blame neither. remember, he was the one who pushed for us to get Shockeye, as well as to sign some other losers on our team (Grant anyone?). Loomis just trusts in his coach/scouting staff. They are all to blame for some major blunders, IMO.

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Loomis should have been fired a long time ago, IMO

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+1

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which this year has proved he is not even good at

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Outside of the Grant and Smith deals... i don't think you can make that kind of statement against Loomis.

They signed Vilma, but even if the Saints did lose Vilma what could Loomis have done? We are up to our neck in cap meaning we can't compete with Tampa's cap and signing him before FA would mean paying and having to give up a 1st. Vilma is a good LB, but its too much.