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re: If Brock Bowers or Rome Odunze are still on the board at 14, do you take one of them?
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:44 pm to ForTheWin81
Posted on 3/29/24 at 3:44 pm to ForTheWin81
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I'd take Bowers, game changing TEs like him do so much and have such an impact on the offense.
The two teams in the superbowl had the two best tight ends in the league this year.
But yea I’d take either of those guys if they fall.
This post was edited on 3/29/24 at 3:45 pm
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Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:29 am to GynoSandberg
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Yes There are a dozen OL in the top 50, the difference between the guy at 14 and the guy at 45 isn’t that much. You aren’t finding an Odunze or Bowers, nothing close
This right here. This is a stacked draft class. Odunze and Bowers are legit top 5 talents. If one of those are available then you draft them. We can grab OT in round 2.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 9:51 am to Mpd31
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We can grab OT in round 2.
Most stud OTs are drafted in first round. Passing that up for a WR or TE isn’t wise.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 10:24 am to LSUPilot07
If Bowers is there, you take him. That is a position of need just as much as OL and the new hip drop rule seems to be beneficial to TEs since that’s how smaller DBs take them down.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 10:29 am to Froman
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That is a position of need just as much as OL
Is it? You have Juwan Johnson and Foster. Not to mention Taysom basically is a TE.
Meanwhile you have nothing at OT other than Penning who was benched, Ram who might retire, and Young. I cant even remember the last TE drafted in the first round that made a major impact on the team.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 10:44 am to Froman
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That is a position of need just as much as OL
Nahhhh
This post was edited on 3/30/24 at 10:45 am
Posted on 3/30/24 at 10:47 am to High Life
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They wouldn’t say this but they value the guys protecting Mahomes > kelce at this point
No.
He is the reason they won a superb owl without an elite receiver.
As for bowers, it would be extremely hard for me to pass on him at 14. The guy can do it all. Snatches the ball like a receiver.
I don't think bowers will be there at 14.The Good thing is this draft is flush with 1st round tackles.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 10:50 am to LSUPilot07
Gotta take the best injury prone non power five conference player available
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:10 am to Pels_Yaz
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Most stud OTs are drafted in first round. Passing that up for a WR or TE isn’t wise.
It is absolutely wise to draft the BPA over a tackle. We don’t need a stud top 10 tackle right now. Would be nice but a serviceable tackle is all we need. If we had a young franchise qb then it would be a different story. You absolutely should take one of those elite playmakers if they fall to you instead of reaching for a tackle. There are very good offensive lineman to be found in day 2 and 3 every year. We also don’t have the best track record recently of drafting 1st round tackles (Peat, Penning).
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:13 am to Mpd31
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We don’t need a stud top 10 tackle right now. Would be nice but a serviceable tackle is all we need.
What??? Lol why in the world would you think we dont need a stud top 10 tackle right now. So your ok with your vet QB Carr basically being killed because you just want someone serviceable protecting him???
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:16 am to Pels_Yaz
Semantics right?
Is Penning serviceable?
Of course not.
Is Penning serviceable?
Of course not.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:19 am to goatmilker
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Semantics right? Is Penning serviceable? Of course not.
I don’t think you understand what semantics mean but I guess you had a great friday. Do me a favor sit this one out and have a great Saturday as well.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:21 am to LSUPilot07
Trade the pic to the jags and let them go get who they want at 14. Take there #17 and get one more pick in line the 3rd or 4th.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:23 am to Pels_Yaz
Stop trying to a make point using the wrong words.
You took serviceable as meaning a crap player that gets qbs killed. And you get no favors from me.
You took serviceable as meaning a crap player that gets qbs killed. And you get no favors from me.
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:26 am to goatmilker
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Stop trying to a make point using the wrong words. You took serviceable as meaning a crap player that gets qbs killed. And you get no favors from me.
Stop acting like you know what Im trying to say replying to another post when you don’t. Aren’t you suppose to be posting racial south park gifs and trying to be funny? Ran out of gifs?
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:29 am to Pels_Yaz
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What??? Lol why in the world would you think we dont need a stud top 10 tackle right now. So your ok with your vet QB Carr basically being killed because you just want someone serviceable protecting him???
A serviceable tackle is not going to get Carr killed. Is he going to take some hits? Sure but other teams manage without having a top tackle. If you have a chance to get a potential superstar like Odunze or Bowers then you take it. You don’t go into this draft and just say first round tackle no matter what. Also it is worth mentioning that offensive weapons help with protection. Qb can get the ball out faster and can make defenses pay on blitzes
This post was edited on 3/30/24 at 11:39 am
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:38 am to Mpd31
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A serviceable tackle is not going to get Carr killed. Is he going to take some hits? Sure but other teams manage without having a top tackle. If you have a chance to get a potential superstar like Odunze or Bowers then you take it. You don’t go into this draft and just say first round tackle no matter what.
I would disagree especially considering our qb is a bit subpar when it comes to dealing with pressure to begin with. I like Odunze he has potential but WR is not a need.
I don’t think TE is a need either. Bowers may be talented but I wouldn’t think hes this huge impact type of guy. Take a look at all the first round TEs drafted in the last 20 years. The only guys that you would label as impact players would be Dallas Clark, Greg Olson, Vernon Davis and Todd Heap out of 25 TEs selected. The chances Bowers becomes a franchise type TE is pretty slim.
This post was edited on 3/30/24 at 11:40 am
Posted on 3/30/24 at 11:59 am to Pels_Yaz
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Stop acting like you know what Im trying to say
Its not an act
Posted on 3/30/24 at 12:35 pm to Pels_Yaz
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WR is not a need.
TE is a need either.
Both are needs. You don’t have a WR over 200 lbs. We have backup calibre TEs running as our starters
Bowers would solve both issues. Ran half his routes from the slot at UGA, another 11% split wide.
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Bowers may be talented but I wouldn’t think hes this huge impact type of guy. Take a look at all the first round TEs drafted in the last 20 years. The only guys that you would label as impact players would be Dallas Clark, Greg Olson, Vernon Davis and Todd Heap out of 25 TEs selected. The chances Bowers becomes a franchise type TE is pretty slim.
In the ENTIRE PFF College Era, Brock Bowers ranks:
1st in career PFF receiving grade (94.3)
1st in career receiving yards
1st in receiving YAC
1st in forced missed tackles
T-1st in receiving TD's
Reality is most of Bowers receiving metrics surpasses the stud WRs of the past few classes. He is that dude
Posted on 3/30/24 at 12:41 pm to Pels_Yaz
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I would disagree especially considering our qb is a bit subpar when it comes to dealing with pressure to begin with. I like Odunze he has potential but WR is not a need.
You are too focused on need and short term goals for next year. In actuality, I also don’t think a first round tackle necessarily pushes you to a playoff birth next year anyway. Carr is a veteran who is getting paid well and needs to figure it out. He isn’t going to get the perfect offense and an offensive playmaker still helps him. Now if a first round tackle is the BPA then you absolutely take the tackle. But don’t go in and say tackle or bust when there is better talent on the board that can transform your offense.
This post was edited on 3/30/24 at 12:43 pm
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