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How I feel about Marcus Williams
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:46 am
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:46 am
I've stated here, and I still believe, that Marcus Williams is responsible for yesterday's loss. He was in position to make a play at the last play of the game and did not make it. It's on him.
That being said, I'm not going to hold it against him long term. That's sports. People make mistakes. Sometimes it's on the big stage, with all the sports world watching. It won't make a difference whether I like or hate the kid, so I will choose to not hate him. Better for me.
I hope he has the opportunity to be a hero one day. This is going to be an ugly career scar.
That being said, I'm not going to hold it against him long term. That's sports. People make mistakes. Sometimes it's on the big stage, with all the sports world watching. It won't make a difference whether I like or hate the kid, so I will choose to not hate him. Better for me.
I hope he has the opportunity to be a hero one day. This is going to be an ugly career scar.
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:47 am to SpqrTiger
Finally! We've been waiting to hear how you feel. Glad this didn't go in one of the other threads.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:52 am to SpqrTiger
quote:No he’s not responsible for the loss. Anyone who thinks that is a fricking idiot. There were plenty of plays we could point a finger to. He was responsible for intercepting a pass that set us up for a TD.
I've stated here, and I still believe, that Marcus Williams is responsible for yesterday's loss
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:57 am to GOON
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Finally! We've been waiting to hear how you feel. Glad this didn't go in one of the other threads.
Good. Glad you took the time to respond. It helps the thread.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:04 pm to TechDawg2007
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No he’s not responsible for the loss. Anyone who thinks that is a fricking idiot.
I might be a fricking idiot, but I'm a fricking idiot who is right on this one.
I do not deny that he intercepted a pass and contributed to the potential victory.
You deny that he is the only person who could have stopped Diggs from scoring. He was. There was only one action that could have prevented the touchdown once the ball was in Diggs's hands, and Williams was in position to perform that action. He did not. Thus, he is responsible.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:09 pm to SpqrTiger
Bookmarked, printed, and stored in bank deposit for when Smithsonian calls.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:10 pm to SpqrTiger
Drew shouldn’t have under thrown Ginn that was a TD that got intercepted. Sneed should have put more air under the ball he threw to Kamara that was a TD. Sean Payton should have run a different play on 3 and 1. I could go on and on. It’s not williams fault we lost this game
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:10 pm to SpqrTiger
Saints would not have even been in the game in the first place if not for Williams.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:14 pm to SpqrTiger
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I might be a fricking idiot, but I'm a fricking idiot who is right on this one.
I don’t think you are a fricking idiot cause I’m not a dick, but you are absolutely wrong.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:16 pm to SpqrTiger
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You deny that he is the only person who could have stopped Diggs from scoring. He was. There was only one action that could have prevented the touchdown once the ball was in Diggs's hands, and Williams was in position to perform that action. He did not. Thus, he is responsible.
If he makes that tackle, do you give him credit for the entire win?
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:18 pm to SpqrTiger
I don’t hate him or anything like that that. But if you are going to give him credit for the int that lead to a TD you also have to put it on him that he didn’t make the play to win the game. IMO he was overly aggressive on the play and got to Diggs before the ball did. He then ducked out of the way to keep from getting flagged for interference. Huge mistake on his part. It hurts and it sucks but I bet no one is hurting more than he is. Life goes on, we are Saints fans this is nothing new for us.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:18 pm to SpqrTiger
The play was bad.
All time bad. Dropped snap Herm Edwards recovering a fumble for a game winning TD bad.
The tackle attempt was bad. “Butt fumble” bad.
This was worse than the Niners 2011 loss. We could not stop them and knew it. And knew they had the ball last.
Even MY DAD the ultimate “it’s the Saints. Not over til it’s over” let down his guard. He won’t again for the rest of his life. As the play was happening I screamed “no” the moment I saw Williams leave his feet. That move and type of tackle was so out of place for the situation.
All time bad. Dropped snap Herm Edwards recovering a fumble for a game winning TD bad.
The tackle attempt was bad. “Butt fumble” bad.
This was worse than the Niners 2011 loss. We could not stop them and knew it. And knew they had the ball last.
Even MY DAD the ultimate “it’s the Saints. Not over til it’s over” let down his guard. He won’t again for the rest of his life. As the play was happening I screamed “no” the moment I saw Williams leave his feet. That move and type of tackle was so out of place for the situation.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:41 pm to SpqrTiger
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Marcus Williams is responsible for yesterday's loss
Stopped reading here. For this to be true every other player and every coach is held blameless for what happened the other 59 minutes and 50 seconds.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 2:29 pm to SpqrTiger
This game was lost when the offense didn't convert that 3rd & 1 with 25 seconds left.
I had an uneasy feeling even as I watched Lutz's kick split the uprights. You never put the game back in the hands of the defense if you can help it...even with so little time on the clock.
I had an uneasy feeling even as I watched Lutz's kick split the uprights. You never put the game back in the hands of the defense if you can help it...even with so little time on the clock.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:08 pm to SpqrTiger
Marcus Williams is gonna be a good player for a long time on the team I root for. That being said, I will never understand what he was thinking and doing on that last play. Nothing about what he did makes sense. He somehow managed to do everything he shouldn’t have done.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:00 pm to SpqrTiger
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I might be a fricking idiot
Seems that way
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but I'm a fricking idiot who is right on this one
Nope
It's a TEAM game. You win and lose as a TEAM. He didn't throw any interceptions. He didn't fail to convert the third down. He didn't make the play calls. To say he's solely responsible for the loss is moronic. Why do we feel the need to cast blame anyway. He played his heart out for us all year. And yet, when he makes one mistake, one bad play (don't forget he's a rookie), you want to crucify him? Give me a break.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:04 pm to SpqrTiger
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hat being said, I'm not going to hold it against him long term.
Marcus will be so glad to hear about this when I see him for our weekly manager meeting. I'll let you know what he says!
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It won't make a difference whether I like or hate the kid, so I will choose to not hate him. Better for me
Oh, you're just so mature. Glad you can put aside that hate and continue on with life.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:09 pm to SpqrTiger
You are nobody. He is wealthy, well known, and an elite athlete. He put himself in the arena and put everything on the line while u were at home drinking beer and criticizing from your double wide.
Marcus, you are the man, hang in there. Those that respect what you do also respect you as a person. You had a hell of a year. Who Dat
Marcus, you are the man, hang in there. Those that respect what you do also respect you as a person. You had a hell of a year. Who Dat
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:24 pm to SpqrTiger
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You deny that he is the only person who could have stopped Diggs from scoring
I have not seen the replay since yesterday, but from reading about it in various articles/threads as soon as the ball was in the air Robertson, Lattimore & Bell where in places that with some hustling could have potentially caught Diggs. But, we will never know because they all stopped on the play and did not continue to pursue the ball/runner. If that is the case, I think they deserve just as much blame since they quit on a live play.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 4:44 pm to SpqrTiger
I call BS on the "Marcus' fault" reasoning. There are those who say that we played like crap in the first half and overcame that in the second half. We were winning with 25 seconds left and that one play lost the game. BS
If we hadn't played so lousy in the first half, nearly zero offence (I believe I saw Drew's first half stats as 1 for six for 3 yards) we should have had nearly a tie game going into the second half without the penalties ( O and D),2 interceptions, bad calls,and overall poor play.
Given all those ifs and butts, the Saints should have been up by two TD's going into that last drive. It would have been a none issue.
Did I mention the not making the third and one; and CSP wasting two time outs with BS challenges?
You can't have it both ways.
If we hadn't played so lousy in the first half, nearly zero offence (I believe I saw Drew's first half stats as 1 for six for 3 yards) we should have had nearly a tie game going into the second half without the penalties ( O and D),2 interceptions, bad calls,and overall poor play.
Given all those ifs and butts, the Saints should have been up by two TD's going into that last drive. It would have been a none issue.
Did I mention the not making the third and one; and CSP wasting two time outs with BS challenges?
You can't have it both ways.
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