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He’s stalling for Atlanta

Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:27 am
Posted by Louisianabound88
BR
Member since Dec 2016
3725 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:27 am
Adam Schefter on get up just said Saints have deal in place ready to go. Atlanta still scrambling to put something together. Not saying he won’t choose us but that says a lot to me
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19628 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:28 am to
He is holding both of us hostage for more money. Once you realize that, all this shite makes sense.
Posted by Louisianabound88
BR
Member since Dec 2016
3725 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:30 am to
You really think we don’t plan on giving him more money? If not then why are we still in it?
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
7088 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:30 am to
It's obvious he wants Atlanta, why else would he have reached out. The Saints are obviously the better choice for him and the stall is to let Atlanta try and put the pieces together. The Saints need to nut up and give him a deadline, which should have been yesterday.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10432 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:30 am to
Yeah. He’s helping the Falcons find a Matt Ryan trade while they still have leverage. This is over, we need to find a backup option.
Posted by Tigerbait1977
Fort Worth, Texas
Member since Jun 2020
3259 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:31 am to
If he really wanted to go to Atlanta he would have already told the Saints they are out of the running. They did that to the panthers and browns.

I honestly think Watson is torn. He knows the Saints can win, but he has a chance to go home.

Posted by Louisianabound88
BR
Member since Dec 2016
3725 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:33 am to
Not unless he wanted to cripple a team he’s gonna face twice a year

A team he was raised to hate as a child. I hope I’m wrong
This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 8:35 am
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10432 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:33 am to
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If he really wanted to go to Atlanta he would have already told the Saints they are out of the running. They did that to the panthers and browns.


Not really. The moment that got reported, which would be immediately by someone like Underhill, any team who was considering trading for Matt Ryan would immediately lower their offer or pull out altogether knowing that they’d have to cut him to make room for Watson, and he would be cheaper on the open market. They’d lose all their leverage. It makes a lot of sense that they’d keep it hush for a few days to let them try to trade Ryan.
This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 8:34 am
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
56259 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:34 am to
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Yeah. He’s helping the Falcons find a Matt Ryan trade while they still have leverage. This is over, we need to find a backup option.


IMHO, this is the most likely scenario describing what's going on right now with this thing. An added bonus is that the Stall is making the Saints risk losing their own Starting QB, Jameis Winston.

Double Win for Watson and ATL.

ATL is willing to cut Matt Ryan, if they can't trade him, IMHO.
Posted by VA LSU fan
Virginia
Member since Dec 2007
9010 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:34 am to
Watson knows he can win a Super Bowl or two with the Saints in the next five years.

Once all the Falcons draft capital is gone the Texans have a better shite at making the playoffs than the Falcons over the next three years.

I hope his agent is being honest about how bad a team the Falcons are and I hope the Texans take Pitts.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29761 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:36 am to
quote:

Not unless he wanted to cripple a team he’s gonna face twice a year


How exactly is he crippling us? The Saints were never going to be major players in free agency and have managed to sign a few people while engaged in this trade.

quote:

A team he was raised to hate as a child.


Means nothing once a team can pay him millions of dollars.

quote:

I hope I’m wrong


You are
Posted by LC Baw
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2021
242 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:37 am to
I don't know about you but I was very happy with Jameis before injury and was and still am all in on him if this does not work out with Watson. I'd prefer Watson over Winston in this scenario but neither one is a bad option to me.
Posted by Tigerbait1977
Fort Worth, Texas
Member since Jun 2020
3259 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:37 am to
He took the panthers out too (who he would have to play 2 times a year)

He kept the saints there which I think is telling.

I just highly doubt that Atlanta is thinking about how they can cripple the saints, when they have Watson in sight and need to be focused on solving the Ryan situation.

Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19628 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:38 am to
No one is saying we and ATL will not pay him more money, but contracts are all about guaranteed money. Also, you better believe he is looking at the Mahomes and Rogers contracts as a starting point. If we are both offering him $40 mil a year with 140 mil in guarantees, he could very easily be stalling to see who will up the guarantee money.

I know ATL is his hometown, but not many athletes really seem to give a shite about that.
Posted by TechTiger
Running an easy 10
Member since Feb 2007
1468 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:38 am to
If they trade Ryan before any restructuring and June 1, then it will be a $48 mil cap hit.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
8147 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:39 am to
I'm betting he's asking whatever team he picks to restructure his deal to provide more guaranteed money this year in the event the NFL suspends him..

We have $30m in cap space and Loomis

The Falcons have $40-48 million tied up in Matt Ryan, who nobody wants
Posted by Louisianabound88
BR
Member since Dec 2016
3725 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:39 am to
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How exactly is he crippling us?


You think Jameis will wait forever when he can go to Indy?
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10432 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:41 am to
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If they trade Ryan before any restructuring and June 1, then it will be a $48 mil cap hit.



No. His cap hit now is 48m. If they cut him, 40m is dead and they’ll save 8. They are already cap compliant right now. So they’d gain 8 in space by cutting or trading him.

In theory they could sweeten the pot with a trade partner to take some of the salary, which is why the leverage is so important and why IMO the decision is made and is being kept quiet.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12807 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Adam Schefter on get up just said Saints have deal in place ready to go. Atlanta still scrambling to put something together. Not saying he won’t choose us but that says a lot to me


Unfortunate for our nerves and hopes but if we land him it won’t matter one bit
Posted by SnoopALoop
Nashville
Member since Apr 2014
4544 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 8:44 am to
Imagine a rapist holding all the leverage
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