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Hear me out in this. Sean Payton is easily distracted and difficult to motivate.

Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:11 am
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10578 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:11 am
Not as good as people think. Drew made him look a lot better than he was. There have been several period where he neglected the team as was perceived:

Pain Pills Era
Divorce Era
Remarried Summer

This might be absurd on face value but there doesn’t seem to be much urgency on his parts for building parts of the roster. The hard work that comes with developing succession and long term strategy was never there. We “band-aid” everything. It worked for a decade. Now not so much.

I think you’re about to se a toilet bowl period. 2-3 years of marginal results unless they pull a top tier veteran QB to step in.

It’s clear Jamies isn’t going to pull the team out the gutter with his athletic prowess and skill. How Payton doesn’t know his starter by now is concerning. Screams neglect. This isn’t College Ball where you compete to see who wins the job.

Just putting it out there that there are periods where he doesn’t seem very interested in the job any more.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 11:13 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:13 am to
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Pain Pills Era
Divorce Era
Remarried Summer


pretty weak list to be honest.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10578 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:16 am to
Well that cost us about 4-5 seasons with neglect so…
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 11:17 am
Posted by DirtyE
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2008
2506 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:18 am to
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It’s clear Jamies isn’t going to pull the team out the gutter with his athletic prowess and skill.


He may not be the guy going forward but how is this clear right now?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:18 am to
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Well that cost us about 4-5 seasons with neglect so…


what did?
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
16661 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:21 am to
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Just putting it out there that there are periods where he doesn’t seem very interested in the job any more.


The last 4 years playoff losses and how they happened will do that to you.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16422 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:24 am to
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Pain Pills Era
Divorce Era

Weren't these during the bounty punishment seasons. Would be difficult to "band-aid" the results during that time frame as blame on SP.

I think a bigger concern is how much of the success is because of Brees v Payton? I think you are seeing something similar in NE right now. We've only known Payton to be successful with Brees, will the team rebound quickly and continue to be SB contenders, will we see some struggles for a few years then be back in the thick of things, or will they be fighting for WC spots moving forward.
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
53616 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:29 am to
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It’s clear Jamies isn’t going to pull the team out the gutter


based on what?


Also, pull the team out the gutter? We've won the division 4 straight years lol. When you lose a HOF QB you tend to suck for a bit, see the dolphins/broncos/patriots/etc

Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
10561 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 11:53 am to
I love how you mouth breathers are trying to spin CSP’s wedding as the reason why Mike Thomas is a POS diva. Holy reach.
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:00 pm to


Sean Payton is plenty motivated having to play football chess with the above depicted arse clown.

Remove the clown from the equation and the Saints have 3 Superbowl victories under Sean Payton.
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
5108 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:01 pm to
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Pain Pills Era
Divorce Era
Remarried Summer


Era? sounds like my 2018 bud
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81893 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:21 pm to
I agree but we’re not likely to find someone better.

He is a HOF coach and has a ton of gravitas around the league (even though we all know he’s pretty overrated and kind of checks out for years at a time).
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 12:24 pm
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10578 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:26 pm to
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based on what?


Based on the period of performance games when Drew was not available.

I felt the playcalling and execution became lazy. There were times where we couldn’t complete basic passes. The playcalling was at times dreadful like running on 3-8 at midfield. Going for 3 straight dive runs on your own field side when behind.

I think as much crap as I gave Brees his last 2 years, the guy was that offense’s strategy. From skill and execution standpoint, but also basic strategy.
Posted by gadknot
Reality
Member since Jul 2005
37306 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:30 pm to
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Based on the period of performance games when Drew was not available.


The games that we went almost undefeated in?
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5032 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:38 pm to
People may say otherwise due to the playoff failures but i dont know how anyone can look at these last few years and make a topic like this. There may be 2 or 3 coaches tops that can take Taysom Hill and Teddy Bridgewater and win. I honestly think its his best coaching save for the Superbowl year
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18963 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:44 pm to
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I love how you mouth breathers are trying to spin CSP’s wedding as the reason why Mike Thomas is a POS diva. Holy reach.


Like Payton isn't supposed to have a personal life outside of football. These people are frickin ridiculous.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27256 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 12:54 pm to
This guy keeps making shitty threads.

Sean payton loves football and is a great coach. You are just making shite up with these shitty threads.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
7965 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:33 pm to
Sean also did his best work when he was double dipping while married and guess who’s married again.
Posted by St Jean The Baptiste
Laredo, TX
Member since Aug 2015
5828 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:37 pm to
I always saw him as JK Simmons from Whiplash.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31607 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 1:42 pm to
This is one of the dumbest fricking threads of all time


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