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re: Go get Joe Brady
Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:34 pm to Suntiger
Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:34 pm to Suntiger
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Besides having Josh Allen, what attributes does Brady have that make you think he will be a good head coach?
The Bills were struggling offensively last year with Ken Dorsey. Once they fired him and Brady took over tge Offense became way more explosive. That has continued this year.
He took an average 2018 LSU offense and made it the most prolific offense in CFB history.
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:38 pm to Lester Earl
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Should be number 1
Why? What has he actually proven? He’s had success when he’s worked with generational QBs but when he was fed a hand of shite, he couldn’t overcome (Panthers)
I like Brady and think he’d have success here but it’s baffling to me folks are willing to hop on that bandwagon and forget about the “continuity” argument they bring against Aaron Glenn when Brady also qualifies
Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:41 pm to Suntiger
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No we don’t. We need somebody that can lead the organization. Allen being a defensive coach didn’t have anything to do with him being a shitty head coach.
THANK YOU.
DA wasn’t a bad HC solely because he was a defensive minded guy. He was a failure of a HC because he lacked an attention to detail, dogged guys publicly (Perry, Kendre Miller, Olave) without discussing the issues he had with them first, and blatantly refused to acknowledge his shortcomings. He wasn’t a leader of men. He was good with the Xs and Os on defense but that’s about it.
He’s Spags-lite
Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:53 pm to WicKed WayZ
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and forget about the “continuity” argument they bring against Aaron Glenn when Brady also qualifies
Huh
Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:54 pm to lsufan1971
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The Bills were struggling offensively last year with Ken Dorsey. Once they fired him and Brady took over tge Offense became way more explosive. That has continued this year.
And Dorsey was fired again this year. That example could just be as easily Dorsey is legit dogshit as an OC and held them back.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:56 pm to moock blackjack
All you Saints fans better let your feelings be known to Gayle and Mickey by e-mail.
If you want Joe Brady as the HC, let them know and why you want JB.
May not help, but it can't hurt........
If you want Joe Brady as the HC, let them know and why you want JB.
May not help, but it can't hurt........
Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:59 pm to WicKed WayZ
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Why? What has he actually proven? He’s had success when he’s worked with generational QBs but when he was fed a hand of shite, he couldn’t overcome (Panthers)
Fans trying to quantify a coaches contributions is like chasing ghosts. We just aren’t privy to some of the most important information needed to make these decisions.
So that leaves us vetting the profile. He’s been with some great programs but has also elevated both Burrow & Josh Allen. Offensive minded. Check. Attention to detail. Check. Really good play caller. Check,
The Carolina situation was as toxic as Aaron Glenn’s situation in Detroit is special. At the end of the day, neither are really all that responsible for what went on with their respective teams.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:23 pm to Lester Earl
But then why is AG mostly hated as a candidate on here vs. Brady, who most seem to be on board with?
I’m almost certain Brady is a better Xs and Os coach than AG. But we had a good Xs and Os coach and a horrible manager. Part of being a HC isn’t just scheme and strategy. It’s a big part but it’s not everything as DA found out
I’m almost certain Brady is a better Xs and Os coach than AG. But we had a good Xs and Os coach and a horrible manager. Part of being a HC isn’t just scheme and strategy. It’s a big part but it’s not everything as DA found out
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:49 pm to WicKed WayZ
No one can manage bad players. Saints need better players. If Aaron Glenn losses no one cares how motivational he is.
And I don’t think people are against Glenn due to “continuity”. I think they want an offensive coach.
And I don’t think people are against Glenn due to “continuity”. I think they want an offensive coach.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:08 pm to moock blackjack
He looks great when he has josh Allen, burrow chase and Jefferson. Is he bringing them with him?
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:54 am to lsufan1971
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The Bills were struggling offensively last year with Ken Dorsey. Once they fired him and Brady took over tge Offense became way more explosive. That has continued this year.
He took an average 2018 LSU offense and made it the most prolific offense in CFB history.
Exactly. Look how much better both offenses got with him.
Josh Allen has been great, but they were kind of stuggling under Dorsey and he has Allen playing unreal now.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:57 am to WicKed WayZ
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But then why is AG mostly hated as a candidate on here vs. Brady, who most seem to be on board with?
I don't want another defensive HC, but that's me and it's a preference. Have always preferred going after a younger offensive minded HC. Especially considering that's exactly what worked when the Saints hired Payton.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 3:02 am to BrewDrees95
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He looks great when he has josh Allen, burrow chase and Jefferson. Is he bringing them with him?
Bills WRs are not great and he has their offense playing unreal. Even their running game looks great. At least he has shown he doesn't even need WRs like that. Yes, you need a great QB to be legit in the NFL.
How good is a defensive coach going to look without those players as well?
Who is really winning anything of note in the NFL without a legit QB? So why not at least try to get an offensive minded HC and see if he can find his QB?
The Saints were crap without a QB when they hired Payton. They signed Brees a couple months after Payton. I just don't see why if you are Loomis you don't go back to that.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 6:15 am to Suntiger
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We need an offensive minded HC
No we don’t.
We need somebody that can lead the organization. Allen being a defensive coach didn’t have anything to do with him being a shitty head coach.
Thank you
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:30 am to beauchristopher
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Exactly. Look how much better both offenses got with him.
Josh Allen has been great, but they were kind of stuggling under Dorsey and he has Allen playing unreal now.
So under this logic, you also want to hire Brian Daboll. Because Allen was doing great under him. Do you want Brian Daboll? Because he’s 18-32-1 as a head coach.
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Who is really winning anything of note in the NFL without a legit QB? So why not at least try to get an offensive minded HC and see if he can find his QB?
Our players are bad. Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson aren’t winning anything with CEH & Mims at RB behind Lemon and some 6th round guard and our leading receiver Juwan “tictok” Johnson.
“Let’s find a successful OC and draft or sign a QB and we will win” is intellectually shallow thinking.
We have bigger problems and need someone that can build a team.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:44 am to beauchristopher
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The Saints were crap without a QB when they hired Payton. They signed Brees a couple months after Payton. I just don't see why if you are Loomis you don't go back to that.
Because the Saints have zero room to maneuver to get ANOTHER veteran QB. They are $50 million over the cap and tied up in a bunch of really bad contracts. Loomis still believes they are a HC/QB away from making another run, and fans will have to wait for these players to either retire or die before the Saints get their numbers down to a manageable margin.
By comparison, the Browns are the second-worst in cap space with a $30 million tab and they have a $235 million QB that can’t play.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:05 am to moock blackjack
I know the LSU haters will pounce but he was really something here. Seeing what he's doing with the Bills just goes to show you how far he's advanced, albeit his Panthers stint was a little underwhelming.
However, if Mickey is making him hold onto to various coaches, I'm pretty sure he'd rather just stay in Buffalo and wait for better ops. The Saints are a dumpster fire right now and the front office is shite. Until it's a cleaned house, you're not going to attract the best and brightest.
However, if Mickey is making him hold onto to various coaches, I'm pretty sure he'd rather just stay in Buffalo and wait for better ops. The Saints are a dumpster fire right now and the front office is shite. Until it's a cleaned house, you're not going to attract the best and brightest.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:14 pm to Giantkiller
I don't think we NEED an offensive minded coach - We NEED a great hire with a long term contract.
If we get a Defensive minded coach, keep Kubiak on staff.
If we get an offensive minded coach, hire a new DC.
But either way, we better make the right hire with the understanding that it will take a few years to break the team down, rebuild the right way (no contracts pushed into future years), and get some young talent.
If we get a Defensive minded coach, keep Kubiak on staff.
If we get an offensive minded coach, hire a new DC.
But either way, we better make the right hire with the understanding that it will take a few years to break the team down, rebuild the right way (no contracts pushed into future years), and get some young talent.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:50 pm to moock blackjack
I love a lot of Brady similar to Ben Johnson although I’d take Johnson over Brady but my only question is how much input have both guys had in scouting and selecting the players they have. As a HC they are the final say unless the GM or owner overrule them. That being said I would much rather roll the dice on a young offensive mind than someone like McCarthy who is a good coach but I think his best days are behind him. He’s not sleeping at the office at nights during the year like SP would early in his career in New Orleans.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:44 pm to Islandboy777
quote:Get Brady in here and then find a way to trade for Burrow.
The only way he is good if he has a top flight quarterback.
Brady
Gruden (Tell me again why was he let go by the Raiders?
) McCarthy (The experienced "Better Than" candidate)
That's it for me
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