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First 3 quarters v the 4th Quarter and what the Saints can learn from it

Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:50 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:50 am
It can't be ignored that the Saints got their absolute asses kicked for 3 quarters and looked like total dogshit, got blown up on both lines, and Marcus Mariota looking like Lamar Jackson out there. Jameis had like 56 yards passing at that point.

What was the difference? Was it simply that they finally played with tempo (which they did switch tempos)? Was it a sense of urgency? Being forced to open up the Offense? Or is it just that the Falcons will Falcons?

What do you hope the Saints take from the way they played in the 4th vs the way they played the rest of the game?
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12619 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:53 am to
I'm hoping it was as simple as the oline finally gelled. They hadn't played together in a long time... injuries last year. Really think we made a mistake by not playing starters more in preseason; glad it didn't bite us yesterday
Posted by TechDawg2007
Bawville
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:54 am to
If this team plays all 4 quarters like we did in the fourth quarter yesterday we will be TOUGH to beat
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:58 am to
quote:

what the Saints can learn from it
quote:

the Falcons will Falcons
Just stick around long enough for the inevitable collapse.

But you’re right, we looked horrid for most of the game. Both lines did not live up to billing.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74482 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:00 am to
It’s fairly simple, it all boiled down to the trenches on both sides. It’s a game of adjustments - we adjusted (per usual) and the tides turned rather quickly
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:06 am to
quote:

It’s a game of adjustments - we adjusted (per usual) and the tides turned rather quickly


I have a suggestion, and this is just a thought, but what if we adjusted before the game started and played well for 4 quarters
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34971 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:07 am to
Ruiz is going to be a problem all year.

I honestly think they were going to move hurst inside and play penning at lt.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12619 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:08 am to
With penning's injury, not sure how much of an option he'll be for a while. This injury slammed the brakes on his development
Posted by Swagga
504
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:09 am to
I think the tempo helped, but jameis getting on the same page and trusting Landry / Olave & Thomas was massive, especially Landry and Thomas. In the first half it looked like the only person he was on the same page with was juwan Johnson.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74482 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:25 am to
Art Smith and Dean Pees are two good coaches over on the other sideline too. Best we’ve seen in ATL. Gotta give them credit, they had an inferior roster playing hard and in position to win.

Mariota and Patterson will give team fits in spurts. But Werner practically erased Pitts and we made the other guys beat us. Credit to our gameplan
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34971 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:27 am to
Those two are really good coaches that have been running those systems forever.

I do think the saints had a down game against the run.

I am worried about the o line again this yr.
Posted by Espritdescorps
Member since Nov 2020
2795 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:29 am to
Thomas and jameis finally got in sync. and it was a thing of beauty
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77199 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:15 am to
Can they teach Penning to play RG? Ruiz was less than steller.

But first game is on tape now and I hope it helps going forward.

Would love to be in a nfl room when tape is broken down with players for the first time
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:20 am to
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Ruiz is going to be a problem all year.

I honestly think they were going to move hurst inside and play penning at lt.


I think Hurst was the worst OL on the field yesterday. I know Peat and Ruiz are the ST whipping boys and all. There was one play where Peat moved over to help Hurst and the defender still came inside and sacked Winston.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131950 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:26 am to
There's a reason why they did what they did to get Penning.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74482 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:36 am to
Hurst has had a foot since middle of august. He looked fat and out of shape. Missed valuable practice and preseason reps

He played at a high level in pass pro last season on a large number of snaps. We will see how he looks as he rounds into shape
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481261 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:41 am to
quote:

What do you hope the Saints take from the way they played in the 4th vs the way they played the rest of the game?


It's time to just accept it:

This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 10:42 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112949 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:58 am to
quote:

First 3 quarters v the 4th Quarter and what the Saints can learn from it

Obviously this was the most extreme version of it, but I think we can expect this type of inconsistency with a Jameis Winston quarterbacked offense.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481261 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 11:16 am to
I think the bigger issue/variable is a Doug Marrone-coached OL. They made significant 2nd half adjustments to the pressure packages and Jameis was allowed time to do stuff. Jameis is always going to have issues with trying to do too much, but he couldn't even drop back without pressure. Hell, many times it was immediate, untouched pressure (which is purely on our OL reads/assignments)
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22282 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 11:20 am to
OL started playing well, but Atl stopped sending in extra blitzers to break up the oline gameplan. If you recall, he had that one incomplete on the second TD drive due to a blitz. I think that was the only time they sent someone other than the Dline at Winston.

Also don't think Atl ran any stunts in the last 3 drives. They were very conservative with their pass rush

And, Winston & MT finally starter to heat up. If/when they get on the same page, that can be a very deadly combo.
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