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re: Falcons trade S Jessie Bates to Jags for a 2nd & 5th
Posted on 11/9/26 at 7:13 pm to tigerfan88
Posted on 11/9/26 at 7:13 pm to tigerfan88
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You don’t tank your way to success in the NFL. This idea that conflates is with the NBA and doing what the Thunder or Spurs did is just nonsense. We absolutely made a bunch of mistakes trying to chase being contenders from 2021-23. We traded away way too many draft picks, we accumulated way too much dead cap. But we haven’t done those things in the past couple years. We have a very clean cap coming up starting next off season, we have all of our picks. Trading away your in his prime top 10 DE with a year and a half left on his deal doesn’t erase the sins of the past.
I agree. If you can get two 1st Rd picks for him, which is highly unlikely, then trade him. Our roster needs the help.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 7:16 pm to 22jctiger22
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If you can get two 1st Rd picks for him, which is highly unlikely
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then trade him. Our roster needs the help.
Yall are so annoying.
You don't trade a top 5 edge who's still young when you ALSO have a rookie deal qb. You build around them
ESPECIALLY to a team who's willing to GIVE you the two firsts now, as they will be one of the contenders and it'll be low/bad picks
This post was edited on 11/9/26 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 11/9/26 at 7:21 pm to Proximo
The issue is we have so many glaring holes, even though we have a rookie deal qb, we need to hit the jackpot next year and the year after just to have a shot at winning it all.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 7:24 pm to htran90
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The issue is we have so many glaring holes, even though we have a rookie deal qb, we need to hit the jackpot next year and the year after just to have a shot at winning it all.
How many firsts did we spend chasing a once in a lifetime guy like Chase?
Davenport 2 firsts
Turner 1 first
Foskey 2nd
3 firsts and a second?
We finally get him and everyone wants to give him away for likely end of the first round talents like Stephone Anthony and Cesar Ruiz
It's asinine
Posted on 11/9/26 at 8:31 pm to Lester Earl
Never thought I’d see the day the Saints would lose Lester Earl
The plot is officially lost.
And Lester is correct. This might be a 3-4 year rebuild if managed perfectly.
Knowing how the Saints operate, I’d honestly be surprised if they in the playoffs once in the next 10 years.
The plot is officially lost.
And Lester is correct. This might be a 3-4 year rebuild if managed perfectly.
Knowing how the Saints operate, I’d honestly be surprised if they in the playoffs once in the next 10 years.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 9:47 pm to Proximo
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when you ALSO have a rookie deal qb
You keep saying this shite
It’s a 4 year deal & its halfway through. You’re acting like he’s on a 7yr deal lol. That window for action has long closed. They’ve wasted two years and have regressed
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:34 am to Proximo
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How many firsts did we spend chasing a once in a lifetime guy like Chase?
Jamar?
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:41 am to Proximo
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I think madden GM mode might more your speed. This is an actual football team
We have zero cap issues going forward and can quickly turn this around since we found a franchise QB on a rookie deal
You can't build a title team via Free Agency. That's Madden GM Mode thinking.
We have too many holes to afford filling them in Free Agency
We have REALLY expensive holes to fill, like OL and CB.
I think after we go 1-5 or 2-4 in our next 6 people will stop hyping the team up after OT wins against teams like the Browns. All that took was a bye week and a terrible backup QB
Posted on 11/10/26 at 7:26 am to DiamondDog
Has Lester ever been a Saints homer
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 7:27 am
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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You can't build a title team via Free Agency
I didn't say we'd build it via free agency. It's a obviously a mix of the two
Even if we do continue losing, we didn't look good and Kellen continues to not inspire confidence, Chase isn't someone you move on from at this stage of the build. He is a core player
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 8:18 am
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:29 am to NIH
No
But I want the saints to be good like all
of us. I’m not saying anything out of hate or spite.
As a fan I can live with keeping Young, he’s been a dog. But I think at the end of the day it would be a regrettable situation given the state if the team.
But I want the saints to be good like all
of us. I’m not saying anything out of hate or spite.
As a fan I can live with keeping Young, he’s been a dog. But I think at the end of the day it would be a regrettable situation given the state if the team.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:37 am to Lester Earl
All good. Wasn’t saying you’re totally off base.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 8:38 am
Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:13 am to Lester Earl
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As a fan I can live with keeping Young, he’s been a dog. But I think at the end of the day it would be a regrettable situation given the state if the team.
I think you're being a bit overly pessimisstic.
We are at the point of now completely shedding the Kamara, the cam Jordan, the godchaux, the ruiz, and maybe a few others. We have foundational pieces in place and when you are starting with the QB and some weapons, its usually easy to go from there.
Maybe Kellen is not the guy. THat needs to be seen. But we are in the process of building up. Not down.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:22 am to Lester Earl
That's mostly my point. Chase is one of those guys that's going to be a Saints legend and standing up there getting Saints HOF honors one day, imo.
He and Tyler are the leaders of this team and I just think the fans need guys to root for practically as well
He and Tyler are the leaders of this team and I just think the fans need guys to root for practically as well
Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:47 am to Chad504boy
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think you're being a bit overly pessimisstic.
Chad, can you list who you think are the 10 best Saints on this roster, and their age?
I don’t think I am being pessimistic. It’s sad. I think you’re missing about 11-12 positions where you don’t have a solid, NFL caliber starter, much less someone that is a high end player. You need both.
And that lack of talent trickles down to the whole roster.
You are void of:
High end players
Solid nfl starters
Young talent
Depth in your 2nd unit
Shough can make a lot up on offense with the right pieces. But is one of your better offensive players really Audric Estime?
Defense is in a much worse position. Your whole back 7 is one of the worst in the league, and that isn’t an embellishment.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 10:11 am to Lester Earl
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can you list who you think are the 10 best Saints on this roster, and their age?
1. Shough
2. Olave
3. Chase
4. Banks
5. Tyson
6. McCoy
7. Granderson
8. Juwan
9. Ellis
10. Werner/Sanker/Breese/ Etienne/ Edwards
We have a bettering balance of youth and aging out more vets. Our cap will continue to be more managable with smart decisions and selective extensions. All of the above are more than capable of playing the next 2 years with their age. Nothing else is important past that.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 10:14 am to josh336
Listening to First Take this morning, Rattler name got mentioned about going to Minnesota. I hope they make that happen
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:08 am to Chad504boy
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1. Shough
2. Olave
3. Chase
4. Banks
5. Tyson
The fact you put Banks 4 and Tyson 5 proves Les's point.
Banks has potential, sure, but is nowhere close to an elite player. Tyson is a rookie who has been injured and hasn't shown anything on the field yet.
Just look at that top 10. Then look at the top 10 for really good teams. Night and day.
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:16 am to BowDownToLSU
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Listening to First Take this morning, Rattler name got mentioned about going to Minnesota. I hope they make that happen
Mentioned as in they "have sources saying they inquired" or mentioned because they were throwing a bunch of names in the air of who they think Minn should go after
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:21 am to Weekend Warrior79
I would imagine they were just listing options of QBs they could go after, seeing as how the deadline is this afternoon

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