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re: Falcons trade S Jessie Bates to Jags for a 2nd & 5th

Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:54 pm to
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I don’t understand what world you are living in. This is such a fan (see: fanatic) take


Endowment Effect of fans.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9811 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:58 pm to
Through 8 games last year the saints were 1-7 and had been non-competitive in 4 of those 7 losses.

Through 8 games this year we’re 3-5 and have had 2 non-competitive losses.

We’ve also had much worse injury luck this year through 8 games.

There has been objective progress. We are out of cap hell this upcoming offseason for the first time in 7 years.

None of that means anyone thinks there isn’t a ton of work left to do with the roster and the coaching stuff, but again you keep parroting this stuff about regression and being in a worse position that just isn’t true.
Posted by goatmilker
With Chinese expect nationalism
Member since Feb 2009
78905 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 2:59 pm to
Facts that don't help a QB play better:
Losing 40% of your oline for the majority of games played so far
A broken left hand
Losing #1 RB for year
Not having 1st round WR for all of one game

Not excuses but facts.

Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74728 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 3:40 pm to


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Losing 40% of your oline for the majority of games played so far


We deemed Asim Richards as an adequate backup to arguably the most important position on the team. We drafted and extended Ruiz and never felt the need to upgrade his spot

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Losing #1 RB for year


Fair. Except they were complacent in paying Kamara again, and rolling with their 3rd rd pick Kendre Miller as adequate backups

quote:

Not having 1st round WR for all of one game


Again, they drafted an oft injured WR at pick 8.



Every team in the league faces these issues. Aren’t these things part of the issue? This is the NFL, no one cares about these things

Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
78905 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 3:43 pm to
I didn't ask for sympathy. Not saying anything just stating facts.

If you want to say one of these things does help a QB to play better I'll listen. Why you just repeated what I posted is a mystery to me
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74728 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 3:58 pm to
You’re responding to posts about the process of developing the roster on what is a hopeful upward trajectory. What you listed in an indictment on the shitty process independent on how Shough is performing

The record over the past six seasons bares the facts. The ultimate litmus test on improvement is… your record
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
78905 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:19 pm to
I listed things that are the exact opposite of Independent of performance.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
26249 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:23 pm to
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what do you do when it goes backwards instead of accelerates?

You surely don't lean into not putting a competent team around him

It's Kellen's fault for waiting so long to play him last year. He never should've allowed Rattler to tank year 1

The next thing the video game crowd will say is we need to trade Tyler and tank because he's too old at 29 for a market deal
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
26249 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:33 pm to
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be back into that "possible playoff via winning the worst division in the NFL" status while being far away from title contention.

So the better plan is you get what you wanted all along which was Rattler as the starter and trade old crappy Shough, I'm assuming
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
292695 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 4:40 pm to
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The next thing the video game crowd will say is we need to trade Tyler and tank because he's too old at 29 for a market deal


That would be on the opposite end of the video game stuff you’re saying. Both are their own extreme of craziness
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
487910 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:07 pm to
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So the better plan is you get what you wanted all along which was Rattler as the starter

wat in tarnation
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