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re: Derek Carr is Jim Everett 2.0; Not Drew Brees 2.0

Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5843 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:01 pm to
Dalton was signed to be a backup. You arent getting a starter quality for what you are paying him. Daniel jones is getting 40 million per. It is what it is
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5843 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:02 pm to
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Let the Carr dick riders make their excuses. We’ll be getting the last laugh come early December when the Saints are still ~.500 or below.


If you get off on this team being bad you are just a shite fan.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77143 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:02 pm to
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Let the Carr dick riders


Is this what passes for intelligent post now? Seems to be a slew of homo erotic references around here of late. I hope its a temporary phase.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12618 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:03 pm to
Why would any saints fans be happy the saints had a disappointing season?

There's always those that fandom takes a back seat to being proven right among complete strangers. How weird
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5843 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:05 pm to
I dont understand why some of these people even follow the team.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12804 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:23 pm to
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December when the Saints are still ~.500 or below.


I could see a 9-8 run if they completely mortgage the future and go 7-10 twice before clearing house
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
17789 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:35 pm to
Just hoping for something in between but if he is a flop we can call him Chrissie Carr.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
9399 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:37 pm to
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He was way better than Wade Wilson and Hebert


Are you actually trying to say Jim Everett was better than Bobby Hebert??
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34316 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:49 pm to
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We’ll be getting the last laugh come early December when the Saints are still ~.500 or below.




You do realize these are the kinds of posts that get bumped and become a laughing stock, right?
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19624 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 3:03 pm to
31 year old QB in the 90s to a 31 year old QB in 2023 is apples and oranges. Jim Everett was probably hit on like half of his dropbacks, his entire career. When he got to the Saints, he was already long in the tooth with a breaking down body. David Carr is basically a fresh faced college kid compared to 90s Jim Everett.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72474 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 3:11 pm to
I’d feel SO MUCH better about this situation if our coaching staff didn’t suck balls.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17183 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 3:12 pm to
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I am not sure Derek is better than Dalton. Seriously. Carr had Davante Adams and Josh Jacobs that could actually run the ball this past season & he was such a liability that they benched him the last two games.



How does LV's OL factor into that equation?
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 3:37 pm to
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A NFC championship game was just played and the QBs were Hurts, Purdy and Johnson.


There are also much better teams built around all of these guys than the Saints have. A QB is a critical piece, but cannot do it all alone. The Saints are not currently in a spot to make any kind of run, we need fresh blood and depth as well as a QB. Our ceiling right now is win a bad division and get boatraced in the playoffs like Tampa Bay.

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Carr is better than at least 2 of them


Debatable. What is “better” exactly, he’s flashier? Certainly questionable when it comes to results. Purdy and Hurts both have more playoff games and wins in significantly less time in the NFL. One was an MVP candidate this year and one a rookie surprise that could have a nice future ahead, time will tell.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48668 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 4:23 pm to
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We’ll be getting the last laugh come early December when the Saints are still ~.500 or below.


Why would you be hoping for this to happen?
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80926 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 4:37 pm to
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Are you actually trying to say Jim Everett was better than Bobby Hebert??


YES
Posted by VictoryHill
Watson, LA
Member since Nov 2013
3261 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 4:45 pm to
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Why would you be hoping for this to happen?

Where are you getting I'm hoping for the Saints to do poorly? Expecting them to do poorly =/= hoping for them to do poorly.

You guys act like anyone who is against an Allen/Carr pairing is a moron, a negasaint or whatever, but at the end of the day we have a head coach with a career 28% winning percentage and a quarterback who had his worst season last year after the Raiders gave him Davante Adams.

Further, Carr has never won anything of note, has just 2 winning seasons in 9 years, and is going to an offense with less skill talent. We're never going to win a game because we have Derek Carr; we're not going to look back at a game and go "man, we don't win that without Carr."

I had a vested interest in watching Carr this past year. I watched every single Raiders game. Carr is not good. He was downright cringeworthy at times, going long stretches without even looking at or targeting the best WR in the game.
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
14088 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 5:54 pm to
He’s probably better than Dalton. That isn’t saying much though.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48668 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 6:03 pm to
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Where are you getting I'm hoping for the Saints to do poorly? Expecting them to do poorly =/= hoping for them to do poorly.


Saying you will have the last laugh is a poor choice of phrasing. It can be inferred that you have staked out a position that will give you joy if it comes to pass.

quote:

You guys act like anyone who is against an Allen/Carr pairing is a moron, a negasaint or whatever, but at the end of the day we have a head coach with a career 28% winning percentage and a quarterback who had his worst season last year after the Raiders gave him Davante Adams


I am not in any way saying Carr is a good choice or implying that you are a moron, I just didn't like the phrasing. Honestly, I probably should have kept that to myself but here we are.

For what it is worth, I do not think Carr is the QB of the future but I also think he may be as good or better than Dalton. Only time will tell if this even happens, though.

Apologies for being snarky, it really was unwarranted.
Posted by Irish Knuckles
Nuwallins
Member since Jan 2015
1263 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 6:03 pm to
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Carr is not a great decision maker under pressure or a clutch winner.


since derek carr came into the league in 2014, he leads the nfl in comebacks(28) and game winning drives(33).
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26821 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 6:23 pm to
Jim Everett Played pretty damn well for us, if we are being honest. He was still a top 10 QB, even with our shitty arse team.
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