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Can we talk about spiking the ball with 23 secs left?
Posted on 9/12/22 at 11:21 am
Posted on 9/12/22 at 11:21 am
The second that happen I was like “I’ve seen this movie before”
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 11:23 am to Hester Carries
Should have been rush to the line, but then jameis had the brains to let the clock keep ticking down. ATL would have likely used their own TO at that point.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 11:30 am to Hester Carries
Having a 10 yd loss there wasn't great, but the offense was on fire. We weren't gonna be stopped.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 11:30 am to Bonkers119
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Having a 10 yd loss there wasn't great, but the offense was on fire. We weren't gonna be stopped.
Not talking about that spike.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 11:31 am to Hester Carries
Yep gotta make atl burn a time out
Posted on 9/12/22 at 11:51 am to Chad504boy
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Should have been rush to the line, but then jameis had the brains to let the clock keep ticking down. ATL would have likely used their own TO at that point.
In the heat of the moment the QB is having to process many things quickly. It was already an unusual situation because he spiked it on first down (though I don't necessarily blame Winston because Landry caught the ball in bounds and looked like he was down in bounds). Then, in the rush, he wanted to make sure above all that the Saints at least got a chance at a FG.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think the coaches were still able to communicate (via his mic) with Winston. That's when, as a QB, you probably want your coach to help you out by letting you know the situation.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 11:55 am to Alt26
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Then, in the rush, he wanted to make sure above all that the Saints at least got a chance at a FG.
I would understand at like 10 secs. But 23!?
Posted on 9/12/22 at 11:59 am to Hester Carries
Honestly I think he and DA just panicked. DA basically admitted to it, glad we got the win. I mean they played clutch but definitely some panicking with clock management
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:00 pm to Hester Carries
The ref should have communicated to Winston the situation or not released the ball to play.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:02 pm to Hester Carries
Jameis didnt know it was third down. He was surprised when he found out it was 4th down and we had to kick. We lost the down on grounding call. Prob why he was confused and thought he would have another play.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:06 pm to Hester Carries
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I would understand at like 10 secs. But 23!?
Mentioned this in another thread. Clocking at or under 10 seconds is a hell of a lot bigger gamble than at 23 (in this scenario). If they try to milk it to 10 or under and there is a procedure penalty, 10 second run off and no FG try. Should have done it around 15 seconds, maybe 12; but definitely not under 10
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:09 pm to Weekend Warrior79
All of this just makes me realize how much shite is going through the heads of a HC and QB at the end of a game.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:18 pm to Hester Carries
Sure have 
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:20 pm to Hester Carries
Feel like the refs need to be more clear with the call on field. Still thought he was touched in bounds
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:59 pm to Hester Carries
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I would understand at like 10 secs. But 23!?
I think in the heat of the moment Winston just forgot it was 3rd down...really because the series of downs started awkardly with him being penalized for spiking the ball on first down...resulting in an intentional grounding call and loss of downs. Usually when you spike the ball you are not getting a penalty. Particularly one that results in a loss of downs. So think Jamies just routinely thought the pass prior to the third down spike was 1st down...not 2nd down.
The officials ruling Landry out of bounds...when in the moment he looked like he was down in bounds kind of set the whole funky sequence in motion.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 12:59 pm to Lester Earl
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Feel like the refs need to be more clear with the call on field. Still thought he was touched in bounds
It was clear as day. Landed a yard inbounds and defender made contact on the way down. Very weird missed call that I don’t see happen often.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:03 pm to adamb2151
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Jameis didnt know it was third down. He was surprised when he found out it was 4th down and we had to kick. We lost the down on grounding call. Prob why he was confused and thought he would have another play.
He had the “shite, man” look on his face and was holding up two fingers right after the spike, so I do think he thought it was only 2nd down. Either way, it worked out.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:34 pm to Lester Earl
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Feel like the refs need to be more clear with the call on field. Still thought he was touched in bounds
Some of you need to get this straight. He absolutely was contacted by the defender on the way to the turf landing in bounds. He WAS NOT GIVEN (correctly so) the yardage after getting up and running. The ref just blew it by ruling he was out of bounds. Jarvis knew he landed in bounds and you can see him sprinting to the middle of the field to hand the ball to the official because he understandably thinks the clock is running. Jameis sees Jarvis running to give the ball to the official and thinks he needs to spike it. You can argue Jameis needs to see if the clock is running, but this is almost entirely on the refs for screwing this up.
Now the second spike is a little more on Jameis. Should have let more time run off.
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:39 pm to Hester Carries
I was less concerned about the time and more concerned that it was 3rd down. I thought there was time to at least try a quick slant or something. With Lutz missing one earlier I would have liked a few extra yards, but we won so I don’t care in the end
Posted on 9/12/22 at 1:50 pm to Damone
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All of this just makes me realize how much shite is going through the heads of a HC and QB at the end of a game.
Truth! It’s real easy for we fans to sit back and watch the sky cam view of the whole field while eating snacks and drinking to make an accurate call in real time.
Much harder when you’re trying to manage personnel, assignments, get a play call every one is in place for, identify defensive alignment, not get crushed by 300 lb men, all while ensuring enough time is on the clock to give the FG unit a chance and you’re not committing a penalty.
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