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re: Breese- another reach

Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:52 am to
Posted by FightingTigers138
In your thoughts
Member since Dec 2016
6009 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:52 am to
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Its a terrible fricking pick

The world disagrees with you. Although most of us aren't miserable fricks.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:55 am to
Nah hes right. You’re just positive now because its the offseason when we’re 3-9 you’ll act the same. This was a wasted pick.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131928 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:57 am to
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This was a wasted pick.


Give us a detailed answer as to why, based on the game tape you have watched.
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
13342 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:00 am to
Dude you gotta let this go. You’ve been melting since last night
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291693 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:01 am to
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Allen likes to rotate his DT's, so Breese isn't a bad pick for this philosophy. Unless the Saints get hit with another plague of injuries, he'll hopefully develop in his rotational role.


Saints drafting like a team that earned the 29th pick & not the 10th pick quality team they actually were lol.

They don’t need a rotational DT. They need to acquire the best talent they can and this wasn’t the move.

When guys drop due to the reasons he did, you generally find out why pretty quickly.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23102 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:17 am to
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When guys drop due to the reasons he did,


did he really drop? I feel the end of the first round was always his draft grade.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79862 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:22 am to
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On a side note they have no vision to taker a QB of the future.


I don’t think too many teams on the board between our picks need a QB

Maybe Raiders or the Seahawks. If we really wanted to we probably still have the same options at 9 in the second round
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79862 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:25 am to
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When guys drop due to the reasons he did, you generally find out why pretty quickly.


There is literally no one available at out pick that didn’t drop to our pick.

That’s how it works.
Posted by ErikGordan
Member since Oct 2016
972 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:30 am to
I don't like the pick because I believe he is too tall, slender and lack first step agility. Offensive linemen will leverage and control him.
I think his natural position is a defensive end and will be Cam or Turner's replacement.

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291693 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:56 am to
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did he really drop? I feel the end of the first round was always his draft grade.


He was drafted off a season he had in 2020. They drafted him as that guy. And if he was actually that guy, he would have went higher.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291693 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:02 am to
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There is literally no one available at out pick that didn’t drop to our pick.

That’s how it works.


No, that definitely is not how it works. The draft is about value and the different traits that weigh value.

Not everyone drops because everyone drops.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163149 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:05 am to
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Saints drafting like a team that earned the 29th pick & not the 10th pick quality team they actually were lol.



I mean our FO has been operating under similar delusions for a while so I guess we shouldn't be surprised
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
12548 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:19 am to
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Why do we love guys coming off major injuries?


The honest answer is that injuries cause talented player to fall. If you are picking at 29 and a top 15 talent falls in your lap because of an injury past and you are comfortable that those injuries have healed, then it makes sense to draft him.

I also don't love that aspect when we have been a very injury riddled team the last few seasons but I do acknowledge that the logic is that we get a player with more talent than we should at our draft slot.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79862 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:20 am to
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No, that definitely is not how it works. The draft is about value and the different traits that weigh value. Not everyone drops because everyone drops.


Some people go first overall.

Everyone else drops. You can talk about why people drop, but it doesn’t change the fact that everyone available at any pick after the first overall dropped.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 11:23 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
179947 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:24 am to
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The honest answer is that injuries cause talented player to fall.


its ok to draft breese but not boutte...
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
12548 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:26 am to
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Saints drafting like a team that earned the 29th pick & not the 10th pick quality team they actually were lol.


incorrect. A team that earned the 29th pick takes Nolan Smith or someone like that. We drafted like a team with HUGE needs on the DL and took the best DL available at our pick.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79862 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:28 am to
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its ok to draft breese but not boutte...


Do you think injuries are what’s causing Boutte to fall?

Now, if he’s there day 3…
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
12548 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:30 am to
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its ok to draft breese but not boutte...


Boutte's injury seems to have actually affected his athleticism post recovery and he has all the weird off the field stuff too.

I said weird because he didn't necessarily get in trouble but his decision making left people scratching their heads.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291693 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:42 am to
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our FO has been operating under similar delusions for a while so I guess we shouldn't be surprised


Oh I’m not surprised at all. They were also picking later in drafts with a winning team, so I understood that. This is a bottom half of the league team pretending that they are not.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163149 posts
Posted on 4/28/23 at 11:42 am to
Boutte has always been overrated, I never understood the people that thought he was so supremely talented he could opt out like Chase and be a first rounder. He had a nice stretch of games during the weird COVID year and then pretty spotty after.
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