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Backwards Pass?
Posted on 9/14/26 at 6:13 am
Posted on 9/14/26 at 6:13 am
They admitted it was a backwards pass; thus incomplete. Well rules also state a backwards pass is called a lateral, a live ball. a fumble. Done with this shite.
This post was edited on 9/14/26 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 9/14/26 at 6:28 am to paulb52
If a QB is hit during a pass, the ball is considered a forward pass no matter where it goes
This isn't a new rule
This isn't a new rule
Posted on 9/14/26 at 6:35 am to SlowFlowPro
Rule is interpreted differently from game to game, crew to crew. No consistency in on the field rulings and reviews.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 7:09 am to paulb52
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Rule is interpreted differently from game to game, crew to crew.
The fumble rule? Perhaps
The "backwards pass after a hit" rule? No
Posted on 9/14/26 at 7:25 am to paulb52
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Rule is interpreted differently from game to game, crew to crew. No consistency in on the field rulings and reviews.
Sort of like the definition of a catch seems to change.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 7:27 am to paulb52
That's what the central command in NY was supposed to help with. That way they talk thru it and arrive at the same conclusion. But it's the entertainment league. Remember that first. So they will never interpret the rule the same. Especially against st the Saints.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 7:28 am to SlowFlowPro
It's the interpretation of "begins throwing motion" that's the issue. I think most believed it was when the arm is moving forward. But apparently it's when the qb lifts his arm? bullshite. If the hit comes when his arm is only half raised they rule it a fumble. But because it was fully raised, incomplete pass. Too much room for interpretation. Needs to be moving forward as we all fricking believed it to be.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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The "backwards pass after a hit" rule? No
The problem here is that he successfully completed the pass attempt while getting hit….
His arm angle threw the ball backwards. It wasn’t like the ball uncontrollably flew backwards after he was hit. It was a clear spiral that left his hand after the hit, and his arm angle was throwing the pass backwards.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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This isn't a new rule
I believe it's the same Brady "tuck" rule that everyone was upset with when it was used in the NE vs. Raiders playoff game.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:43 am to paulb52
Forward pass.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:45 am to Teufelhunden
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It's the interpretation of "begins throwing motion" that's the issue. I think most believed it was when the arm is moving forward. But apparently it's when the qb lifts his arm? bullshite. If the hit comes when his arm is only half raised they rule it a fumble. But because it was fully raised, incomplete pass. Too much room for interpretation. Needs to be moving forward as we all fricking believed it to be.
Yeah I think it was a fumble.
But my earlier comment was about applying the rule to a pass (ie, not a fumble)
Posted on 9/14/26 at 9:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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Yeah I think it was a fumble.
that's the end of the story.
But one thing I want clarified is the frame of reference of "hand moving forward"...in what dimension or frame of perspective is "forward' defined.
he was moving toward the sidelines and all the movement was horizontal toward the sidelines (and the ball was lost toward/behind the sidelines after the hit)...so within this perspective is forward toward the sidelines or toward the LOS
Posted on 9/14/26 at 9:17 am to gaetti15
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one thing I want clarified is the frame of reference of "hand moving forward"...in what dimension or frame of perspective is "forward' defined.
His hand was definitely moving forward….just in the opposite direction. The “intent to throw the ball past the line of scrimmage” thing is fine….but we fricked his shite up and turned his arm angle around…..
He then completed a perfect spiral backwards…it wasn’t an out of control pass attempt, he threw the ball backwards. His arm still went forwards, just in the opposite direction….which in any case is a lateral.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 10:11 am to SlowFlowPro
The NFL rule book defines the " Core Requirement for a forward pass " :
"A pass is a forward pass if the ball moves closer to the opponents goal line after leaving the passer's hand".
The ball went backwards after leaving the passer's hand. Once again the referees screwed the Saints.
"A pass is a forward pass if the ball moves closer to the opponents goal line after leaving the passer's hand".
The ball went backwards after leaving the passer's hand. Once again the referees screwed the Saints.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 11:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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no matter where it goes
No matter where FORWARD it goes.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 11:17 am to SlowFlowPro
What? Lmfao
frickin idiot.
frickin idiot.
This post was edited on 9/14/26 at 11:18 am
Posted on 9/14/26 at 11:22 am to TechTiger
quote:His hand was moving up. Chase Young slammed his arm down on Goff's arm which forced Goff's arm forward UNintnentionally. Goff had a strong enough grip on the ball that he didn't lose complete control until it was moving forward at a rapid pace not by his choosing.
His hand was definitely moving forward….just in the opposite direction. The “intent to throw the ball past the line of scrimmage” thing is fine….but we fricked his shite up and turned his arm angle around…..
He then completed a perfect spiral backwards…it wasn’t an out of contro
Posted on 9/14/26 at 11:48 am to TigerBait2008
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What? Lmfao
frickin idiot.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 11:49 am to Barbellthor
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No matter where FORWARD it goes.
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If, after intentional forward movement of his hand, contact by an opponent materially affects the passer, causing the ball to go backward, it is a forward pass, regardless of where the ball strikes the ground, a player, an official, or anything else.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 11:50 am to gaetti15
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that's the end of the story.
Not for OP, who is discussing the "it was a pass" scenario and trying to claim even then it should be a fumble.
That is incorrect.
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