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re: Attorney for Smith family / Attorney for Hayes l Press Conference Recap
Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:54 pm to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:54 pm to Vacherie Saint
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No doubt. I just think people take for granted how difficult it truly is to be accurate at any distance during a life-threatening shooting incident. There are studies on this very subject. ETA. maybe this speaks to your point that the shots were fired at incredibly close range.
You would Also think that the closer he is to smith the less likely it would be that he would hit smiths wife in the thigh as she is very short... Unless he was just spraying and praying and somehow got lucky for a lack of a better term.
Gonna be interesting to hear the testimony once the trial starts.
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:55 pm to Pendulum
Well, by those standards nothing is clear... but we are just girls gossiping on a message board so we allowed a little latitude, right?
The physical evidence has yet to support the idea that Smith brandished a gun. All we have to support this idea is a statement by Fuller from a single witness who may not even come forward because of fear.
Some folks on here simply want to discuss the possibilities in terms of what we know to be, that's all.
The physical evidence has yet to support the idea that Smith brandished a gun. All we have to support this idea is a statement by Fuller from a single witness who may not even come forward because of fear.
Some folks on here simply want to discuss the possibilities in terms of what we know to be, that's all.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:55 pm to yurintroubl
It's going to be interesting when racquel's positioning is confirmed by her. Where she was when she was shot, and how it happened chronologically is more important than where and how smith was shot potentially.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:59 pm to Vacherie Saint
Whether or not Smith at some point had his gun, it seems very unlikely he had it at the time he was shot.
Meaning Hayes shot an unarmed man.
Meaning Hayes shot an unarmed man.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:59 pm to Mouth
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Don't see how the shots to Will's wife's legs were stray shots when the rest were so accurate. If all the shots on Will were waist up it seems extremely unlikely
another good point. Consider if she were standing near WS when he was shot. The photo below shows her wounds would be significantly out of the range of WS's wounds, making the stray bullet idea somewhat less likely.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:02 pm to Vacherie Saint
Lawyer on wwl earlier had this crazy theory that hayes shot the ground as a warning and a ricocet hit racquel and set off all the events.... smith runs to get gun in retribution, hayes stops that from coming to fruition.
Nice little magic bullet bow that ties everything together
So many possible speculations, sad to know we will probably never have an answer.
Nice little magic bullet bow that ties everything together
So many possible speculations, sad to know we will probably never have an answer.
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:03 pm to Vacherie Saint
Don't lie, you just wanted to post a pic of his wife 
I ain't complainin
I ain't complainin
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:03 pm to Rocky4LSU
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Check position of his feet in picture from scene. All twisted
Where can I find this pic? Looking everywhere
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:03 pm to diat150
curious to see what this video the NOPD has.
Hayes is lawyer sounded pretty confident, as does the Mordock guy on twitter that says what is on the video will exonerate Hayes. Where there is smoke there is fire.
Hayes is lawyer sounded pretty confident, as does the Mordock guy on twitter that says what is on the video will exonerate Hayes. Where there is smoke there is fire.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:05 pm to Pendulum
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Lawyer on wwl earlier had this crazy theory that hayes shot the ground as a warning and a ricocet hit racquel and set off all the events.... smith runs to get gun in retribution, hayes stops that from coming to fruition.
Nice little magic bullet bow that ties everything together
Angle of impact would be able to determine that immediately. If the bullets (or fragments) that struck her legs were at an upward angle - That would be the only explanation...unless she was standing on her head at the time.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:06 pm to bonethug0108
I think the only situation that works for hayes is that smith and his passenger get out, a shouting match ensues. by this time smiths wife is out and trying to diffuse the situation. maybe something is said and smith brings up the gun(which we did hear from the witness but may or may not be true) and smith makes a move for the inside of the vehicle. smiths wife in front but close to smith trying to push him back from the door of his benz. hayes opens up and strikes both will and her. this is really the only rational defense hayes has in my eyes.
it is also possible that hayes and his passenger saw the gun in the door compartment of the benz and thought will was making a move for it. this would make what smiths lawyer said "true", that the gun was in a compartment in the vehicle but at the same time would let hayes and his passenger be aware that there was a gun in smiths vehicle which was called by hayes attorney.
it is also possible that hayes and his passenger saw the gun in the door compartment of the benz and thought will was making a move for it. this would make what smiths lawyer said "true", that the gun was in a compartment in the vehicle but at the same time would let hayes and his passenger be aware that there was a gun in smiths vehicle which was called by hayes attorney.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:07 pm to yurintroubl
Yeah, I dont think .45 bullets bounce off of asphalt either.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:09 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Yeah, I dont think .45 bullets bounce off of asphalt either.
also unlikely that 2 bounces would happen cause she was hit twice.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:09 pm to diat150
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I think the only situation that works for hayes is that smith and his passenger get out, a shouting match ensues. by this time smiths wife is out and trying to diffuse the situation. maybe something is said and smith brings up the gun(which we did hear from the witness but may or may not be true) and smith makes a move for the inside of the vehicle. smiths wife in front but close to smith trying to push him back from the door of his benz. hayes opens up and strikes both will and her. this is really the only rational defense hayes has in my eyes.
it is also possible that hayes and his passenger saw the gun in the door compartment of the benz and thought will was making a move for it. this would make what smiths lawyer said "true", that the gun was in a compartment in the vehicle but at the same time would let hayes and his passenger be aware that there was a gun in smiths vehicle which was called by hayes attorney.
This still means Hayes exited the Hummer with his gun on him.
I have to believe Hayes either brought up having a gun, flashed the weapon or straight up started firing... Whatever it was - Hayes approached the face to face armed and Smith did not.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:09 pm to Lester Earl
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Hayes is lawyer sounded pretty confident
He also sounded pretty confident when he said that Hayes called 911 twice. You have an awful lot of faith in defense attorneys.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:11 pm to Vacherie Saint
are you going to get mad if it plays out in court that he justifiably shot Will and ends up getting off?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:11 pm to yurintroubl
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This still means Hayes exited the Hummer with his gun on him.
I have to believe Hayes either brought up having a gun, flashed the weapon or straight up started firing... Whatever it was - Hayes approached the face to face armed and Smith did not.
This and how could Hayes have seen the gun in the door compartment late at night, but CSI's couldn't?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:11 pm to yurintroubl
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This still means Hayes exited the Hummer with his gun on him.
I have to believe Hayes either brought up having a gun, flashed the weapon or straight up started firing... Whatever it was - Hayes approached the face to face armed and Smith did not.
Honestly I would be surprised if he didnt. Im not sure how much that matters unless he got out of the vehicle pointing or carrying the gun. likely he had it in his pocket or waistband.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:12 pm to yurintroubl
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I have to believe Hayes either brought up having a gun, flashed the weapon or straight up started firing... Whatever it was - Hayes approached the face to face armed and Smith did not.
eye witness says that Smith announced first that he had his gun on him.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:13 pm to bonethug0108
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If he had his gun out why wouldn't he try shooting it and why would he be being shot in his back?
I totally agree with this. If Will was in possession of his gun like the defense claims he would have def got some shots off. It's obvious to me that his wife was shot first and Will was trying to make it back to his vehicle to retrieve his weapon. No other reasonable explanation can be given to why he was shot 7 times in the back and his wife was shot twice from the front.
I hope Hayes dies a slow death
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