Started By
Message

re: Attorney for Smith family / Attorney for Hayes l Press Conference Recap

Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:41 pm to
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
148000 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:41 pm to
I'm just going to post this here
quote:


Released just before 5 p.m. Tuesday, here is what the official statement said:

The NOPD is continuing to investigate the shooting incident that claimed the life of 34-year-old Will Smith and injured his 33-year-old wife on Saturday, April 9, 2016.


The incident initially was reported to NOPD as shots fired in the area of Felicity Street and Sophie Wright Place around 11:29 p.m. When officers arrived, they found Smith partially inside of his vehicle suffering from multiple gunshot wounds to the body. Smith was pronounced dead at the scene.

Officers also found Smith’s wife suffering from at least one gunshot wound to the right leg. EMS transported her to the hospital where she is currently being treated for the non-life-threatening injury.

Based on the initial investigation, officers learned that Smith and his wife were traveling eastbound on Sophie Wright Place in their silver Mercedes G63. As they were approaching Felicity Street, their vehicle was hit in the rear by an orange Hummer H2. The impact caused Smith to hit the rear of a grey Chevrolet Impala. Two friends of Smith were inside of the Impala. They were not injured in the incident.

At some point, the driver of the Hummer, later identified as Cardell Hayes (8-26-1987), and Smith exchanged words. During the argument, Hayes produced a .45 caliber handgun and opened fire, striking Smith and his wife. No one else was injured in the gunfire.

Hayes was on the scene when officers arrived and identified himself as the shooter. Detectives detained and questioned Hayes. Based on the interview and evidence gathered from the scene, detectives arrested Hayes and booked him with Second Degree Murder. An additional charge for Smith’s wife’s injury is pending further investigation.

A male passenger was inside Hayes’ vehicle at the time of the incident. He cooperated with detectives and was later released after questioning. Another male and female were inside of Smith’s vehicle. They were not injured in the incident.

Detectives recovered a .45 caliber handgun on the scene believed to be in Hayes’ possession during the time of the shooting. Casings recovered from the scene matched a .45 caliber handgun. As part of the investigation, police confiscated all three vehicles in the incident.

This morning (April 12), detectives executed a search warrant on the Mercedes G63 and the Hummer H2. During the search, detectives recovered a fully-loaded revolver inside Hayes’ vehicle and a fully-loaded 9-millimeter handgun inside Smith’s vehicle. No bullet casings were found inside either vehicle and no ballistic evidence was recovered to show that either weapon was fired during the incident. A search of the Impala is pending.

During the course of the investigation, detectives obtained several surveillance videos from the neighborhood that appeared to show a traffic collision involving the Mercedes G63 and the Hummer H2 take place prior to the shooting. Detectives are in the process of reviewing that video and obtaining additional video to use as part of the investigation.

This is an on-going criminal investigation. Following investigative protocol for all homicide investigations, detectives will continue to gather evidence and build a case to provide for the Orleans Parish District Attorney’s office to review and determine whether to pursue prosecution. As in every case, the department will not make further evidence learned available to the public prior to providing the findings to the DA.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
48305 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

Yes, he did. He specifically said he had a witness who saw a coverup and is afraid to come public.


He may have alluded to it like a mother-effer, but he did not say that the witness implied police misconduct. In fact, he back tracked his tail off to avoid going there.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112530 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:46 pm to
Rt3, see how it says search of Impala is still pending... What the hell is taking so long on that
Posted by Rocky4LSU
Covington
Member since Dec 2007
540 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:47 pm to
There are at least 5 witnesses in two different cars who I'm sure all gave statements to the police Sun night at the scene. This impartial witness gives a different account and Hayes is booked anyway? Wouldn't Smith's attorney know of the differing statement before the news conference? Or did this witness just surface later?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112530 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:50 pm to
Well, he specifically said one witness felt "threatened"

Look, fuller could potentially be completely full of shite. But that would be bold, as what he said will come to light shortly
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30192 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:51 pm to
quote:




So if the shot to the chest/torso was the first to impact Smith and the rest of them (to the back) followed... That would mean the first shot occurred with Smith's BACK to his vehicle when Hayes fired (as Hayes was behind Smith on the street)... UNLESS Hayes had angled into oncoming traffic lane to to fire from a strafing position.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
48305 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:52 pm to
I dont think this witness has talked to police, so they naturally wouldnt have considered that in booking Hayes.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
148000 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

Rt3, see how it says search of Impala is still pending... What the hell is taking so long on that

that was from yesterday... remember that

for all we know the Impala has been searched and nothing of note was found

ETA: I'm assuming NOPD searched the suspect's vehicle and Smith's vehicle and put out the release b/c they knew the public was looking for that information... from what I'm gathering... not a lot of people care about the Impala
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 9:00 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112530 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:58 pm to
Well regardless. He official ballistics have not been produced. That will let us know exactly where each bullet/ bullet hole came from
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
48305 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:58 pm to
Did they say if her entry wounds were in front or back?

If she were, in fact shot first, perhaps Smith turned to retrieve his gun from the car before Hayes began to fire on Smith.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112530 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:00 pm to
Not sure if they said

Was my previous comment correct? Will ballistics be able to show what time of gun shot Mrs. Smith if the billet was no longer in her leg?
Posted by Rocky4LSU
Covington
Member since Dec 2007
540 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:00 pm to
Can the police compel Hayes's attorney to identify or present her for questioning?
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30192 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

Did they say if her entry wounds were in front or back?

The image shows location of entry wounds... So it appears the wife was shot in the legs front to back.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

Shell, road rage in this incident would have came from Smith, not Hayes. What is the base for him to get road rage?

I'm so confused right now.

Didn't Smith 1st hit Hayes, then run off, no?

quote:

I'm not saying rage doesn't happen in non contact events. But if you stop short on someone, the guy in the back is the one to get mad, not the vehicle in the front

I don't really agree at all with that. The guy in the back would be in the wrong if he would have hit, so I'd see the person in the front being mad for the back driver's irresponsibility in almost causing an accident.
Posted by tigerbytail
slapout
Member since Mar 2016
575 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:02 pm to
Hayes is going to the farm after all said and done. all these what it's aren't going to help him He shot 2 unarmed people over a fender bender.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
48305 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:03 pm to
This could add up.

If she went irate on Hayes and he hit her twice in the legs as she approached, Smith likely makes a move for his gun. Then Hayes empties into his back. That lateral shot is likely from a very similar angle as the others.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291631 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

I'm so confused right now.

Didn't Smith 1st hit Hayes, then run off, no?




yea, but you said he could get road rage if he didnt hit him.


yes, he hit him, and that is why he was mad.

ETA: anyway this is stupid to argue over since it never happened. I can only LNCHBOX-style argue so many times in one day.
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 9:09 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
48305 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

Can the police compel Hayes's attorney to identify or present her for questioning?


Not sure, but Fuller will want this testimony heard.

Unless he is full of shite and wants to pickle public opinion enough to get a lesser charge. This has always been my belief.
Posted by Rocky4LSU
Covington
Member since Dec 2007
540 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:07 pm to
If so,she was facing shooter. Smith had entry wound in left side, exit wound in right shoulder. He was facing 90 degrees away from shooter with back to car door opening. Right? How did his left arm get wrapped around steering wheel when he expired?
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48173 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

This could add up. If she went irate on Hayes and he hit her twice in the legs as she approached, Smith likely makes a move for his gun. Then Hayes empties into his back. That lateral shot is likely from a very similar angle as the others.


Unless it was stray bullets, he is fricked if he shot the wife first imho.
Jump to page
Page First 37 38 39 40 41 ... 69
Jump to page
first pageprev pagePage 39 of 69Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram