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re: Attorney for Smith family / Attorney for Hayes l Press Conference Recap

Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:55 pm to
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I have no dog in this hunt. I just think that Hayes is probably a murderer based on what we've seen so far.
Based solely what we have seen so far, he is guilty of manslaughter. No way do they have enough with what we have seen for Murder 2
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:58 pm to
Gonna have to disagree there. We have to find out where exactly Smith's gun was.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:59 pm to
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We have to find out where exactly Smith's gun was.
Even if Smiths gun was in the back seat, it is Manslaughter at worst with what we have SO FAR

Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:59 pm to
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Well until I see this witness testimony, you posting this doesn't mean anything to me.


I agree. i wasn't 100 percent sure my friend wasn't talking shite. But that's what he told me Monday morning and now this comes out today.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:00 pm to
You guys can start a new thread if you want

quote:

Although the man who shot and killed former Saints defensive end Will Smith is claiming self defense, the New Orleans coroner’s preliminary report says Smith was repeatedly shot in the back.

Coroner Jeffrey Rouse said today that Smith was shot eight times in all, once in the chest and seven times in the back. One bullet went through Smith’s body; the other seven were recovered from his body during the autopsy.

“These bullet tracks had entrance into the left upper back (1), left mid-back (2), left lower back (3), and left lateral chest wall (1). Many of these bullets perforated vital organs, including the lungs and heart. One of these wounds was a perforating wound, with both an entrance and an exit wound. This bullet entered the left upper back, traversed soft tissue, and exited from the right shoulder area,” the coroner’s statement said.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17612 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:00 pm to
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I've said for several days now that the hit and run works against Hayes and in favor of the DA.


How?

I think the exact opposite. It will get him Manslaughter or possibly self defense.

I think it completely takes murder off the table.


my prediction right now is Manslaughter conviction and 20 years.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17612 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:00 pm to
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I've said for several days now that the hit and run works against Hayes and in favor of the DA.


How?

I think the exact opposite. It will get him Manslaughter or possibly self defense.

I think it completely takes murder off the table.


my prediction right now is Manslaughter conviction and 20 years.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:02 pm to
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possibly self defense.
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How?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111521 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:02 pm to
Yeh we knew that. The key is, will they be able to show which bullet was first? Is that possible?
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:03 pm to
Oh ok. Did a search for "7" and "seven" and didn't see anything pop up.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130307 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:04 pm to
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How?

I think the exact opposite. It will get him Manslaughter or possibly self defense.

I think it completely takes murder off the table.


my prediction right now is Manslaughter conviction and 20 years.



I simply meant in terms of a conviction.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290899 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:04 pm to
i wonder at what point did he get shot in the chest. If its the first bullet that hit him, it could have spun him around, or he could have turned to shield or retreat
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:04 pm to
Sparkplug please tell me your friend has given a statement??
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
39159 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:05 pm to
I hadn't heard about the chest shot. Based on the number of shots to the back, the chest shot being first makes the most sense. This is pure speculation but if he was shot in the chest first, and had no weapon in hand...Hayes is done.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290899 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:08 pm to
there had been some reports of 1 shot to the torso, on top of the back wounds.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46735 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:09 pm to
yeah, we need an explanation of the chest shot. I am guessing Hayes shot Smith first in chest then finished him off when Will was going for his gun.
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47810 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:09 pm to
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Gonna have to disagree there. We have to find out where exactly Smith's gun was.


if that gun is in the door compartment and visible. this will really change things in my opinion.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130307 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:11 pm to
Another thing for the "Hayes stayed on the scene therefore self-defense crowd":

I've seen first hand that many people in neighborhoods think they are lawyers and have very warped perceptions of what the law is. He might have thought if Smith says he has a gun, I can open fire, and that's self-defense and I'm good.

This kind of thing is pretty common.
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:11 pm to
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Sparkplug please tell me your friend has given a statement??


Yes, he has. Like I said, I was hesitant to believe he saw it go down like that. I believed he saw it or was around, but after reading the OP's post, it seems like that is exactly what happened.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130307 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 2:12 pm to
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if that gun is in the door compartment and visible. this will really change things in my opinion.




Only to a certain degree, and the fact that all inferences point to the police actually had to search the vehicle to find Smith's gun, seems to suggest otherwise.
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