re: Archie Speaks.......

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Archie....still dividing the saints fanbase like Moses parting the red sea. Bobby Hebert is much less divisive. The only ones that hate him are frumpy blue bloods.

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How is Archie dividing the fan base??? Lol@Bobby Hebert, he really cares about the SAINTS huh, are you sure it's not all about money with him?? I mean the guy comes on the radio drunk. Yeah good way to rep the SAINTS.

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Archie came to the Saints when the front office was run by a bunch of morons. The guy never had a team around him. Granted he did lose many games, but a lot of that has to be put on management. They never put a team around him. Much less a coach.

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I wish some people would post rosters from players back then when Archie played to the players today on the SAINTS and then compare Archie to Brees.

And to be honest when people outside of New Orleans think of the SAINTS ARCHIE MANNING is one of the first names to come to mind! LOL@ no longer face of organization, #2 crap, blah blah blah. Why are people even comparing past players to present players. Different era's. Today's NFL is more geared towards offense and help out the offense. Anybody with a brain knows that. That's why so many records are being broken. NFL in the 70's-80's let defense actually PLAY football. When Archie played wr's and qb's didn't get help from refs or the NFL. And also add in the fact that wr's today are waaaaay more talented then when he played.

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Like I stated before, Brees is bigger then football in New Orleans.

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Yeah and Brees have a GOOD supporting cast too. How well do you think Brees would do if he was on the Browns, Lions, Rams, Chiefs, BUCS??? Put Brees on those teams and put Archie on the 70's Cowboys, Vikings, and Steelers and I bet you'd talk different about both guys.

All right I have to post this...this "they didn't even give LSU a look" is absolutely and positively incorrect.

Some time ago I attended a breakfast at which then head baseball coach Skip Bertman was the guest speaker. He was asked about the whole Peyton Manning / Josh Booty thing. He stated that, then head football coach, Curley Hallman approached Coach Bertman to ask for his assistance in recruiting Josh Booty. Skip stated at the breakfast that he told Hallman that if the football team needed a QB he had better look elsewhere as Josh Booty would most likely be a high pick in the upcoming MLB draft. Hallman ignored this advise and proceeded to heavily recruit Booty.

Skip stated that LSU had contact with Peyton and that Archie wanted him to attend LSU for a number of reasons not the least of which it was close to home for football saturday nights. However, Skip said that Archie asked Hallman if he was recruiting Josh Booty to which Skip said Hallman told Archie that Booty was his first choice. That's when Peyton ended up signing with Tennessee.

You all know the "rest of the story". It played out just like Skip said it would...Booty was drafted and signed a MLB contract. Hallman and LSU could have had Peyton.

You can accept this or not, but I was personally in attendance at that particular breakfast meeting and heard this story directly from Skip.

bayouboy------take your "bandwagon" shite and stuff it. Archie was an average q.b. on some shitty teams. he didnt "run" because hes made quite a good living on his name being synonomous with the Saints. sorry...but i have not seen him attend ONE Saints game this year. no interviews with wwl[probably because he will put you to } hes always at his sons games--- i get it. but i havent heard shite from him----until now. and i meant enemy for this ONE game.......idiot.

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That what's annoys me the most. People HATE/dislike that family because they didn't attend LSU. Big deal. They do what's best for them. You don't HATE/dislike people because they don't attend your favorite school for FOOTBALL.lol. Hell everything seemed to work out good for LSU in the long run.

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I agree. Hell, I'm still angry that neither kid attended Jesuit. Maybe the Mannings despise Catholics? Who knows?
In all seriousness, I have spoken with Peyton and others about his recruitment and from what I can gather Archie really didn't care where Peyton went as long as he would be well-coached and fit into the offense. It was Olivia who was somewhat opposed to LSU.

I didn't like Archie when he played for 'Ole Miss, I grudgingly liked him when he played for the Saints, and I couldn't stand him when he and his boys dissed LSU.

I have no problem with him supporting his son in rooting for the Colts, as most parents would. Why anyone would get upset about this is beyond me, since he's never been and never will be a Louisiana boy. Frankly, I don't care what he thinks.

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Sir, your evidence for Peyton was the proof I was looking for. That being said the post of Archie's contributions were very generic. I respect the family, their talents and at no time did I say they should have swayed their kids to go to an in state school. Bottom line is that Brees has done more in four years then any other new Orleans athlete. Like I stated before, Brees is bigger then football in New Orleans. Any one who disputes this is in denial.

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Yet you still have no idea what Archie has done in the community simply bc he chooses not to publicize it.

The Manning Passing Academy is an example of giving back to the community in a big way, considering you have two athletes who have $100M contracts who work with kids closely for an entire week, and actually show up and care about it.

Nothing against Archie. But he can stick Peyton and Eli right up his arse. But that's just me.