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re: Anyone still want to complain about the Shough pick?

Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:21 am to
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117261 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:21 am to
Speak your truth. Everyone for five rounds of 32 picks was racist
Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
1975 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:23 am to
If you don’t think we would be in worse shape without the Shough pick, you are being exceedingly egotistical.
Posted by Cell of Awareness
Member since Jan 2024
766 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:29 am to
Picking a guy with three season ending injuries in the last four years who was the 4th best QB in a weak ACC and who has problems with pressure with a high 2nd round pick?

Yes.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
7428 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:31 am to
They will bitch that it wasn't Sanders.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
7151 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:07 am to
Him being 26 means nothing, he’s a pocket passer QB so he’s in his prime right now and for another 6-7 years. I love the pick. He’s so much of a better QB than Shaduer ever dreamed of being. He can make all the throws look effortless while Deion’s son has a weak arse arm and he holds the ball too long and takes unnecessary sacks.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59992 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 4:42 pm to
How does Carr retiring make picking an older QB that’s been injured a better value? I would have preferred waiting on a QB. Sanders fell to the 5th would not have wanted him earlier but damn the 5th? Ewers went in the 7th, Howard or McCord all fliers worth taking over Slough at 40
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 5:35 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
12056 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 4:52 pm to
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He was projected as 2nd round pick by literally anyone credible.


Show your work. Everything I saw had him in the 4th round.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
12056 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 4:54 pm to
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Did you cry when your mock draft wasn’t followed


I point out the horrible value almost every year, it turns out I’m right. I bump the threads and people like you disappear and avoid the threads again until the next draft that we reach on players. Never ending cycle.

We did get good value last year and the later rounds this year. Shame we went backwards again early this year.

Smarter play was to trade for Howell, or sign Wentz and let them battle Rattler for this year.

Then draft one next year in a better class. Our front office has no vision and is drafts reactively to fill holes. It’s why we’ve been sucking arse.
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 4:59 pm
Posted by MONROE
In the belly of the beast
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 5:02 pm to
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white


No need for racism
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
4123 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 5:07 pm to
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He's not injury prone lo


Let’s not go there considering he is property of Oschner now.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 5:22 pm to
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If you don’t think we would be in worse shape without the Shough pick, you are being exceedingly egotistical.


to be fair we have no idea. I’m rooting for the guy big time. But there is definitely a chance he just totally sucks. Many much higher drafted players have struggled in bad teams before. The number of second round QBs coming in as rookies and playing really well is essentially nonexistent.

We could be in the same shape than if Rattler started. Or a game either way.

My number one hope with Shough (outside of us just having drafted a franchise qb) is that he shows his hand either way. Hopefully he’s a top guy for a decade plus. But if not I hope he shows that he’s NOT the guy relatively quickly and we can move on.

The last thing I want is investing several seasons into a second rounder if we have the chance to snag a real blue chipper.
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 5:28 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 5:28 pm to
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Him being 26 means nothing


It means he was 25 and still could not dominate college competition.

Spencer Rattler carried a better QB rating in college
Posted by RGT
Member since Aug 2024
626 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 6:34 pm to
Hey Pel why would you want to start a rookie QB in the NFL.Unless you have a Jaden Daniel or JB they shouldn’t hit the field until they get aquanted with the system and the SPEED of the league.Last season the Saints had to play SR .
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
4762 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 7:03 pm to
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he just tall & white

your attitude is as if this isnt a good thing…
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59992 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:21 pm to
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If you don’t think we would be in worse shape without the Shough pick, you are being exceedingly egotistical.


This “thought” process shows a stunning lack of any kind of critical thinking. Like it never occurred to you there are alternatives beyond just drafting Shough at 40 or not drafting him at 40. You are just lapping up what is being served. First of all we can’t possibly know if the Saints are better or worse off with Shough because we don’t know the alternatives, they could have drafted someone else or signed or traded for a veteran.
Posted by blafayette
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
703 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 9:25 pm to
Before you make up your mind that he sucks, you should watch the full Clemson and Notre Dame games on YouTube. Both Clemson and ND had excellent defenses with players that were drafted this year. Clemson’s QB will be a first rounder next year.
Shough outplayed him. The game wasn’t as close as the score indicated. Our QB lit up their defense. Louisville WRs could not hold on to the ball. There were multiple drops in both games that were tight window NFL throws that should have been caught.

In the Notre Dame game, he had multiple passes broken up by the ND secondary. The ND corners are much better than Louisville s WRs

The interception by Watts was a deflection off the WRs hands. Throw was perfect, but the catch attempt was not.

Give the young man a chance. He might surprise you.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3103 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:07 pm to
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If you don’t think we would be in worse shape without the Shough pick, you are being exceedingly egotistical.


Huh? Neither of us can predict the future. There’s zero concrete evidence he’s any better than Rattler or Haener. With guys like mike green and Amos still on the board

Day 2 QB hit rates are significantly lower than every other position. So what actual evidence can you point to that proves “we are in better shape for picking Shough”
Posted by Marrero
Member since Dec 2021
487 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:15 pm to
Shaduer is head and shoulders better you want where he was drafted to justifying his talent so badly he’s easily a top 10 pick don’t care for any of the politics that dropped him
Posted by Marrero
Member since Dec 2021
487 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:17 pm to
When have you ever seen a black qb labeled “smart” or “intelligent” during the draft process? I somehow saw it with shough.
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Marrero
Member since Dec 2021
487 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:17 pm to
Dude fricking sucks you gotta love the delusion
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