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2018 Saints Off-season Roster Mega Thread
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:15 am
Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:15 am
We currently have a full roster of 90 players.
According to OvertheCap
Total Cap Liabilities:
Total Cap Liabilities (Top 51):
Team Cap Space:
QB(4) - #2 & #3 QB jobs should be fun to watch.
-Drew Brees - 24 mil (2019)
-Tom Savage - 1.453 mil (2018)
-Taysom Hill - 555 k (2019)
-J.T. Barrett - 480 k (2020)
RB(6) - Someone in this group needs to step up since Ingram is out during weeks 1-4.
-Mark Ingram - 6.245 mil (2018)
-Alvin Kamara - 878 k (2020)
-Shane Vereen - 1.05 mil (2018)
-Boston Scott - 516 k (2021)
-Jonathan Williams - 680 k (2018)
-Trey Edmunds - 555 k (2019)
FB(1)
-Zach Line - 1.0 mil (2019)
WR(9) - Tons of talent here. Just need Meredith to stay healthy, & Tre'Quan Smith needs to catch on fast. WR might be our most talented position from top to bottom.
-Micheal Thomas - 1.396 mil (2019)
-Ted Ginn - 4.5 mil (2019)
-Cameron Meredith - 2.7 mil (2019)
-Tre’Quan Smith - 684 k (2021)
-Tommylee Lewis - 632 k (2018)
-Austin Carr - 555 k (2019)
-Micheal Floyd - 630 k (2018)
-Brandon Tate - 630 k (2018)
-Keith Kirkwood - 486 k (2020)
TE(7) - I'm rooting for Yelder & Dan Arnold.
-Ben Watson - 2.0 mil (2018)
-Josh Hill - 2.833 mil (2018)
-Hooman - 1.933 mil (2018)
-John Phillips - 630 k (2018)
-Garrett Griffin - 555 k (2018)
-Deon Yelder - 485 k (2020)
-Dan Arnold - 480 k (2019)
OC(3) - LeRibeus can play OC as well.
-Max Unger - 8.0 mil (2019)
-Cameron Tom - 555 k (2018) He can play OG as well.
-Will Clapp - 498 k (2021) He can play OG as well.
OG(8) - F.A. signings of Bushrod, Ola, & LeRibeus might have solved our depth issue here.
-Larry Warford - 9.0 mil (2020)
-Andrus Peat - 3.625 mil (2019) He also plays LT.
-Jermon Bushrod - 720 k (2018) He might be able to play LT/RT as well.
-Michael Ola - 630 k (2018) He plays LT/RT as well.
-Josh LeRibeus - 630 k (2018) He plays OC as well.
-Andrew Tiller - 705 k (2018)
-Landon Turner - 555 k (2018)
-Don Barclay - 630 k (2018)
OT(4) - Hopefully either Leonard or Wozniak catches on quickly. They're both projects.
-Terron Armstead - 13.5 mil (2021)
-Ryan Ramczyk - 2.021 mil (2020) 5th year option.
-Rick Leonard - 633 k (2021)
-Nate Wozniak - 480 k (2020)
K(1)
-Will Lutz - 630 k (2018)
P(1)
-Thomas Morstead - 2.65 mil (2022)
LS(1)
-Zach Wood - 555 k (2018)
DT(9) - The battle for the #4 DT spot should be pretty good. I'm guessing that Bromley will be the guy.
-Sheldon Rankins - 3.491 mil (2019) 5th year option.
-Tyeler Davison - 1.961 mil (2018)
-David Onyemata - 766 k (2019)
-Jay Bromley - 630 k (2018)
-Mitchell Loewen - 482 k (2018)
-Woodrow Hamilton - 555 k (2018)
-DeVaroe Lawrence - 481 k (2019)
-Taylor Stallworth - 480 k (2020)
-Henry Mondeaux - 480 k (2020)
DE(7) - Need Okafor healthy or Davenport needs to catch on quick. If not, we might have to use Rankins as a DE like last year.
-Cam Jordan - 14.497 mil (2020)
-Alex Okafor - 2.313 (2019)
-Marcus Davenport - 2.498 mil (2021)
-Trey Hendrickson - 755 k (2020)
-Hau'oli Kikaha - 1.676 mil (2018) He can also play LB in case of emergency.
-Al-Quadin Muhammad - 593 k (2020)
-George Johnson - 660 k (2018)
-Alex Jenkins - 480 k (2018) He's under contract, but he doesn't count against the 90 player max or the practice squad.
LB(9) - Just need to stay healthy here. VERY good depth.
-Demario Davis - 3.3 mil (2020)
-AJ Klein - 5.2 mil (2020)
-Craig Robertson - 2.0 mil (2018)
-Alex Anzalone - 826 k (2020)
-Manti Te'o - 2.8 mil (2018)
-Nate Stupar - 2.125 mil (2018)
-Jayrone Elliott - 705 k (2018)
-Colton Jumper - 480 k (2020)
-KeShun Freeman - 480 k (2020)
CB(10) - If Crawley has another good year...this group is going to be really good.
-Marshon Lattimore - 3.491 mil (2020) 5th year option.
-Ken Crawley - 632 k (2018)
-Patrick Robinson - 2.25 mil (2021)
-PJ Williams - 906 k (2018)
-Justin Hardee - 555 k (2018)
-Arthur Maulet - 555 k (2018)
-Kamrin Moore - 520 k (2021) He also plays Free Safety.
-Linden Stephens - 480 k (2020)
-Robert Nelson - 630 k (2018)
-Marcus Williams - 630 k (2018)
S(7) - I really like our top 3 guys. Bell & Coleman will both play, but I have no clue which one will get more snaps.
-Marcus Williams - 1.418 mil (2020)
-Vonn Bell - 1.083 mil (2019)
-Kurt Coleman - 3.3 mil (2020)
-Natrell Jamerson - 546 k (2021) He also plays CB.
-Chris Banjo - 1.55 mil (2018)
-J.T. Gray - 480 k (2020)
-Sharrod Neasman - 630 k (2018)
2018 IR
-WR - Travin Dural
2018 Dead Money
-Coby Fleener - 5.0 mil
-Jairus Byrd - 4.6 mil
-Nick Fairley - 3.0 mil
-Adrian Peterson - 1.25 mil (got a 6th round draft pick though)
-Zach Strief - 1.1 mil
-Stephone Anthony - 971 k (got a 5th round draft pick though)
According to OvertheCap
Total Cap Liabilities:
Total Cap Liabilities (Top 51):
Team Cap Space:
QB(4) - #2 & #3 QB jobs should be fun to watch.
-Drew Brees - 24 mil (2019)
-Tom Savage - 1.453 mil (2018)
-Taysom Hill - 555 k (2019)
-J.T. Barrett - 480 k (2020)
RB(6) - Someone in this group needs to step up since Ingram is out during weeks 1-4.
-Mark Ingram - 6.245 mil (2018)
-Alvin Kamara - 878 k (2020)
-Shane Vereen - 1.05 mil (2018)
-Boston Scott - 516 k (2021)
-Jonathan Williams - 680 k (2018)
-Trey Edmunds - 555 k (2019)
FB(1)
-Zach Line - 1.0 mil (2019)
WR(9) - Tons of talent here. Just need Meredith to stay healthy, & Tre'Quan Smith needs to catch on fast. WR might be our most talented position from top to bottom.
-Micheal Thomas - 1.396 mil (2019)
-Ted Ginn - 4.5 mil (2019)
-Cameron Meredith - 2.7 mil (2019)
-Tre’Quan Smith - 684 k (2021)
-Tommylee Lewis - 632 k (2018)
-Austin Carr - 555 k (2019)
-Micheal Floyd - 630 k (2018)
-Brandon Tate - 630 k (2018)
-Keith Kirkwood - 486 k (2020)
TE(7) - I'm rooting for Yelder & Dan Arnold.
-Ben Watson - 2.0 mil (2018)
-Josh Hill - 2.833 mil (2018)
-Hooman - 1.933 mil (2018)
-John Phillips - 630 k (2018)
-Garrett Griffin - 555 k (2018)
-Deon Yelder - 485 k (2020)
-Dan Arnold - 480 k (2019)
OC(3) - LeRibeus can play OC as well.
-Max Unger - 8.0 mil (2019)
-Cameron Tom - 555 k (2018) He can play OG as well.
-Will Clapp - 498 k (2021) He can play OG as well.
OG(8) - F.A. signings of Bushrod, Ola, & LeRibeus might have solved our depth issue here.
-Larry Warford - 9.0 mil (2020)
-Andrus Peat - 3.625 mil (2019) He also plays LT.
-Jermon Bushrod - 720 k (2018) He might be able to play LT/RT as well.
-Michael Ola - 630 k (2018) He plays LT/RT as well.
-Josh LeRibeus - 630 k (2018) He plays OC as well.
-Andrew Tiller - 705 k (2018)
-Landon Turner - 555 k (2018)
-Don Barclay - 630 k (2018)
OT(4) - Hopefully either Leonard or Wozniak catches on quickly. They're both projects.
-Terron Armstead - 13.5 mil (2021)
-Ryan Ramczyk - 2.021 mil (2020) 5th year option.
-Rick Leonard - 633 k (2021)
-Nate Wozniak - 480 k (2020)
K(1)
-Will Lutz - 630 k (2018)
P(1)
-Thomas Morstead - 2.65 mil (2022)
LS(1)
-Zach Wood - 555 k (2018)
DT(9) - The battle for the #4 DT spot should be pretty good. I'm guessing that Bromley will be the guy.
-Sheldon Rankins - 3.491 mil (2019) 5th year option.
-Tyeler Davison - 1.961 mil (2018)
-David Onyemata - 766 k (2019)
-Jay Bromley - 630 k (2018)
-Mitchell Loewen - 482 k (2018)
-Woodrow Hamilton - 555 k (2018)
-DeVaroe Lawrence - 481 k (2019)
-Taylor Stallworth - 480 k (2020)
-Henry Mondeaux - 480 k (2020)
DE(7) - Need Okafor healthy or Davenport needs to catch on quick. If not, we might have to use Rankins as a DE like last year.
-Cam Jordan - 14.497 mil (2020)
-Alex Okafor - 2.313 (2019)
-Marcus Davenport - 2.498 mil (2021)
-Trey Hendrickson - 755 k (2020)
-Hau'oli Kikaha - 1.676 mil (2018) He can also play LB in case of emergency.
-Al-Quadin Muhammad - 593 k (2020)
-George Johnson - 660 k (2018)
-Alex Jenkins - 480 k (2018) He's under contract, but he doesn't count against the 90 player max or the practice squad.
LB(9) - Just need to stay healthy here. VERY good depth.
-Demario Davis - 3.3 mil (2020)
-AJ Klein - 5.2 mil (2020)
-Craig Robertson - 2.0 mil (2018)
-Alex Anzalone - 826 k (2020)
-Manti Te'o - 2.8 mil (2018)
-Nate Stupar - 2.125 mil (2018)
-Jayrone Elliott - 705 k (2018)
-Colton Jumper - 480 k (2020)
-KeShun Freeman - 480 k (2020)
CB(10) - If Crawley has another good year...this group is going to be really good.
-Marshon Lattimore - 3.491 mil (2020) 5th year option.
-Ken Crawley - 632 k (2018)
-Patrick Robinson - 2.25 mil (2021)
-PJ Williams - 906 k (2018)
-Justin Hardee - 555 k (2018)
-Arthur Maulet - 555 k (2018)
-Kamrin Moore - 520 k (2021) He also plays Free Safety.
-Linden Stephens - 480 k (2020)
-Robert Nelson - 630 k (2018)
-Marcus Williams - 630 k (2018)
S(7) - I really like our top 3 guys. Bell & Coleman will both play, but I have no clue which one will get more snaps.
-Marcus Williams - 1.418 mil (2020)
-Vonn Bell - 1.083 mil (2019)
-Kurt Coleman - 3.3 mil (2020)
-Natrell Jamerson - 546 k (2021) He also plays CB.
-Chris Banjo - 1.55 mil (2018)
-J.T. Gray - 480 k (2020)
-Sharrod Neasman - 630 k (2018)
2018 IR
-WR - Travin Dural
2018 Dead Money
-Coby Fleener - 5.0 mil
-Jairus Byrd - 4.6 mil
-Nick Fairley - 3.0 mil
-Adrian Peterson - 1.25 mil (got a 6th round draft pick though)
-Zach Strief - 1.1 mil
-Stephone Anthony - 971 k (got a 5th round draft pick though)
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 6:37 pm
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 6:24 am to Ryan3232
Just added the Salary Cap numbers from OvertheCap.
A few guys that could potentially be cut in 2018 to give us some cap room...
-Fleener (8.0 mil) - 5.0 mil dead money hit (post-June 1st).
-Hill (2.833 mil) - 833 k dead money hit.
-Hooman (1.933 mil) - 333 k dead money hit. I think we end up cutting him.
-Morstead (4.85 mil) - 700 k dead money hit. I assume we pay him.
-Kikaha (1.676 ml) - 522 k dead money hit. Hopefully he recovers well, b/c it's going to be an uphill battle for him to make the team.
-Stupar (2.215 mil) - 400 k dead money hit. I think he's the odd man out if we add another LB.
-Banjo (1.8 mil) - 100 k dead money hit. I assume we cut him based on his contract. He did play good on ST's, so who knows?
A few guys that could potentially be cut in 2018 to give us some cap room...
-Fleener (8.0 mil) - 5.0 mil dead money hit (post-June 1st).
-Hill (2.833 mil) - 833 k dead money hit.
-Hooman (1.933 mil) - 333 k dead money hit. I think we end up cutting him.
-Morstead (4.85 mil) - 700 k dead money hit. I assume we pay him.
-Kikaha (1.676 ml) - 522 k dead money hit. Hopefully he recovers well, b/c it's going to be an uphill battle for him to make the team.
-Stupar (2.215 mil) - 400 k dead money hit. I think he's the odd man out if we add another LB.
-Banjo (1.8 mil) - 100 k dead money hit. I assume we cut him based on his contract. He did play good on ST's, so who knows?
This post was edited on 3/13/18 at 1:15 am
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 5:16 am to GMoney2600
These are the only type of threads I wanna see from here on out.
Edit: (not being an arse or anything; you did solid in your report), but it would cool if you added the Salary Cap numbers to the OP. Would make your post a 10/10.
Edit: (not being an arse or anything; you did solid in your report), but it would cool if you added the Salary Cap numbers to the OP. Would make your post a 10/10.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 5:23 am
Posted on 1/16/18 at 6:22 am to GMoney2600
Wow! A lot to comment on, GMoney2600! Nice research, too. Let me just say I agree with almost everything you suggested, give or take. That’s great, because I think we can fill those holes with another good draft and a few good FA. And with 20 guys on IR, we have a lot of options there! A good problem to have!
Posted on 1/16/18 at 6:24 am to Ryan3232
Just added the Salary Cap numbers from OvertheCap.
A few guys that could potentially be cut in 2018 to give us some cap room...
-Fleener (8.0 mil) - 5.0 mil dead money hit (post-June 1st).
-Hill (2.833 mil) - 833 k dead money hit.
-Hooman (1.933 mil) - 333 k dead money hit. I think we end up cutting him.
-Morstead (4.85 mil) - 700 k dead money hit. I assume we pay him.
-Kikaha (1.676 ml) - 522 k dead money hit. Hopefully he recovers well, b/c it's going to be an uphill battle for him to make the team.
-Stupar (2.215 mil) - 400 k dead money hit. I think he's the odd man out if we add another LB.
-Banjo (1.8 mil) - 100 k dead money hit. I assume we cut him based on his contract. He did play good on ST's, so who knows?
A few guys that could potentially be cut in 2018 to give us some cap room...
-Fleener (8.0 mil) - 5.0 mil dead money hit (post-June 1st).
-Hill (2.833 mil) - 833 k dead money hit.
-Hooman (1.933 mil) - 333 k dead money hit. I think we end up cutting him.
-Morstead (4.85 mil) - 700 k dead money hit. I assume we pay him.
-Kikaha (1.676 ml) - 522 k dead money hit. Hopefully he recovers well, b/c it's going to be an uphill battle for him to make the team.
-Stupar (2.215 mil) - 400 k dead money hit. I think he's the odd man out if we add another LB.
-Banjo (1.8 mil) - 100 k dead money hit. I assume we cut him based on his contract. He did play good on ST's, so who knows?
This post was edited on 3/13/18 at 1:15 am
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:19 am to GMoney2600
I think we need another DE, a Rueben Foster type LB, a safety to replace Vaccaro, a OL to replace Kelenente, A receiving weapon either WE or TE who can be a #2 threat
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:25 am to GMoney2600
kick arse post my man ty
i regret i have but 1 upvote to give you
i regret i have but 1 upvote to give you
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:27 am to GMoney2600
So, basically, we have about $8M max once Brees resigns? Unless he decides to take a pay cut to benefit the rest of the team. Something that I would think is much more likely after Sunday than it was before...
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:33 am to GMoney2600
Isn't the new cap projected to be at 178 million?
If that's true we should have a bit of money to send out and backload contracts post-Brees.
Edit: Current is 167, projected IS 178. That's a potential 11 million more!
If that's true we should have a bit of money to send out and backload contracts post-Brees.
Edit: Current is 167, projected IS 178. That's a potential 11 million more!
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 7:35 am
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:41 am to WhoDatTigahsTampa
quote:
So, basically, we have about $8M max once Brees resigns? Unless he decides to take a pay cut to benefit the rest of the team. Something that I would think is much more likely after Sunday than it was before...
We should get relief from Fairleys contract too
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:48 am to Lsujacket66
quote:
We should get relief from Fairleys contract too
We should be fricking absolved from that albatross.
I don't think Nick was malicious but damn it hurts giving someone 7 mil a year for nothing.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 7:52 am to GMoney2600
Are you able to put how many years are left for any players under contract?
G doing work.
G doing work.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 8:00 am to GMoney2600
If drew takes anywhere from 18 to 23 million a year I will call that a huge hometown discount.
We may be able to get Ansah for ~8 million a year.
Oakafor for ~3 million a year.
We need a LB and WR/TE
Graham or Brate should get the 8 million we are giving Fleener currently.
Banjo is staying because he's huge on ST.
Hooman will get cut.
Hill will stay to backup the new starting TE.
Morestead good grief im not sure he's worth almost 5 million a year at this point.
I think we try to sign Malcolm Butler.
I think we also try to sign Jarvis.
I think both will want too much. However, if we can get one of the two, it clears the way to draft a QB or WR in the first round.
We may be able to get Ansah for ~8 million a year.
Oakafor for ~3 million a year.
We need a LB and WR/TE
Graham or Brate should get the 8 million we are giving Fleener currently.
Banjo is staying because he's huge on ST.
Hooman will get cut.
Hill will stay to backup the new starting TE.
Morestead good grief im not sure he's worth almost 5 million a year at this point.
I think we try to sign Malcolm Butler.
I think we also try to sign Jarvis.
I think both will want too much. However, if we can get one of the two, it clears the way to draft a QB or WR in the first round.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 8:25 am to Ice Cold
quote:
Are you able to put how many years are left for any players under contract?
Just added that. The year next to their name is the last year on their contract.
Posted on 1/16/18 at 8:45 am to 50_Tiger
I say keep drafting these young players and start them early. Cut the overpaid veterans(or trade), and have money to extend Brees. The younger players are hungry to make a name for themselves, too. Plus, if they succeed, you have a valuable starter(like Lattimore and Kamara) under team control for 4 years with a 5th year team option. If they walk in FA after that, you’v already drafted their replacement, hopefully. I don’t see the need to pay a Kings ransom in FA to someone just looking to cash in. They rarely work out( Brees major exception.) There are cheaper options out there(Okafor, Ginn,Klein,etc.)
Posted on 1/16/18 at 8:49 am to GMoney2600
Wow. What a post! Thanks
Posted on 1/16/18 at 8:54 am to GMoney2600
quote:
GMoney2600
Thanks baw
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:25 am to Lexman1
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I say keep drafting these young players and start them early. Cut the overpaid veterans(or trade), and have money to extend Brees. The younger players are hungry to make a name for themselves, too. Plus, if they succeed, you have a valuable starter(like Lattimore and Kamara) under team control for 4 years with a 5th year team option. If they walk in FA after that, you’v already drafted their replacement, hopefully. I don’t see the need to pay a Kings ransom in FA to someone just looking to cash in. They rarely work out( Brees major exception.) There are cheaper options out there(Okafor, Ginn,Klein,etc.)
Pretty much. Drafting good players & hitting on bargain free agents is the best way to build up a legit roster in a short amount of time.
These are our best contracts. Lutz, Robertson, & Te'o are the only players that aren't on rookie deals. Ginn (4.5 mil this year) didn't even make the cut...
-Alvin Kamara - 878 k
-Mike Thomas - 1.396 mil
-Andrus Peat - 3.625 mil
-Ryan Ramczyk - 2.021 mil
-Will Lutz - 630 k
-Sheldon Rankins - 3.491 mil
-Tyeler Davison - 759 k
-David Onyemata - 766 k
-Trey Hendrickson - 755 k
-Craig Robertson - 2.0 mil
-Alex Anzalone - 826 k
-Manti Te'o - 2.8 mil
-Marshon Lattimore - 3.491 mil
-Ken Crawley - 632 k
-PJ Williams - 906 k
-Marcus Williams - 1.418 mil
-Vonn Bell - 1.083 mil
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:48 am to GMoney2600
We don't get off the cap hook for Fairley's contract if he has a life threatening medical issue?
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:24 am to hendersonshands
Maybe a little. We're going to have to take the brunt of it though.
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