2011 vs 2018 - Who you taking?

2011 by a lot

2011 pretty easily.

2011 Drew > 2018 Drew
Pierre Thomas > Mark Ingram
Jimmy > Watson

Harper < M. Williams
Meachem < Ted Ginn Jr.
Sproles < Kamara

Vilma, Greer & Colston vs. Davis, Lattimore and MT13 is kind of a wash.


Talent wise it’s not that much of a difference. And Roman Harper is really the only weak link of all those players. I just think the gap between guys like Sproles and Kamara and isn’t as much as young Drew and old Drew, etc.

Also, why Meachem and not Devery or Lance Moore? That makes that comparison even more in favor of 2011.

2011 because we had prime Brees

18 Brees was solid at best at that point. Better defense and some better offensive players in 18, but prime Brees outweighs that. People forget just how great Brees was in his prime. They focus on the down layer years

2011 is probably better than our 09 team

Yep!

put 2011 Brees on the 2018 Saints roster and they may not lose a game

Both great teams, but I have to go 2011 team.
You can argue the 2018 team had better key defensive players that eventually compromised the elite defense we have today, but that 2011 offense was just unreal.

Jimmy Graham in the Saints offense was UNFAIR.
Lining him up along with prime Colston gave us 2 big target 1000 yard WRs while also having Lance Moore, Devery Henderson, and Meachem made for a hell of WR corps. Not to mention you had prime 5,476 yard passing season Brees throwing to them.

Also our backfield in 2011 was STACKED.
Pierre Thomas, Mark Ingram, Darren Sproles, Chris Ivory.
Essentially 4 RB1 backs on a team.

That team just had too many ways to beat you.

team stats:

Passing Offense
2011 - 472/662 71.3% 5505 yards 46 TDs 14 INTs 110.5 QB rating (8.3 Y/A)
2018 - 381/519 73.4% 4174 yards 33 TDs 7 INTs 112.3 QB rating (8.0 Y/A)

Passing Defense
2011 - 362/626 57.8% 4413 yards 24 TDs 9 INTs 86.4 QB Rating
2018 - 384/573 67% 4623 yards 30 TDs 12 INTs 100.3 QB Rating

Rushing Offense
2011 - 431 rushes 2127 yards (4.93 ypc) 16 TDs 2 fumbles
2018 - 471 rushes 2025 yards (4.3 ypc) 26 TDs 6 fumbles

Rushing Defense
2011 - 351 rushes 1738 yards (5 ypc) 11 TDs
2018 - 356 rushes 1283 yards (3.6 ypc) 12 TDs

Special Teams
2011 - 28/34 FGs (82.4%) 63/63 XP 46 punts 2224 yards (48.3 ypp) had 1 punt blocked 1 Punt return TD
2018 - 28/30 FGs (93.3%) 52/53 XP 43 punts 1996 yards (46.4 ypp) Blocked 2 punts

Random stats:
Sacks:
2011 - 33 (Harper lead with 7.5) 82 QB Hits
2018 - 49 (Jordan lead with 12) 98 QB Hits

Defensive TDs:
2011 - 3 (1 INT, 2 Fumble)
2018 - 1 (1 INT)

Forced Fumbles/Recovery:
2011 - 19 FF/7 FR
2018 - 19 FF/11 FR

Efficiency:
2011 O - 56.7% 3rd down, 30% 4th down, 58.7% redzone TD
2018 O - 44.6% 3rd down, 81.3% 4th down, 69.6% redzone TD
2011 D - 33.2% 3rd down, 27.3% 4th down, 59% redzone TD
2018 D - 41.3% 3rd down, 48.3% 4th down, 63.3% redzone TD

Scoring:
2011 - 547 points scored/339 points allowed
2018 - 504 points scored/353 points allowed


Gotta admit...I thought the 2018 D was way better than the 2011 D...but the stats don't back that up (except for the run D)

2011 easy

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Gotta admit...I thought the 2018 D was way better than the 2011 D...but the stats don't back that up (except for the run D)

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remember the early part of 2018?

The Bucs put a 48 burger on the Superdome scoreboard. I remember being so pissed. I mean we scored 40 points and home and didn't win!


The Falcons scored 37 points in week 3. We won though. That was a makeup for that Bucs loss.

had high scoring games with the Rams the first time won 45-35.

also outlasted the Steelers when they still had Antonio Brown and JuJu was really good that year. Brown ate us alive and JuJU also had a big game but he fumbled at the end and we got the turnover.


in 2011 the Lions would have probably beaten us in the playoffs if we didn't have a world beater offense.

the Packers put up a lot on us in the opener.

Houston scored a lot too but the offense had a huge 4th quarter rally and Greer made a key interception.

that San Francisco game the defense settled down after a rough start but we all know how that ended

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2018 couldn’t even beat the Rams in the dome

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1-1 record that season vs. Rams

that is why we had homefield to begin with remember?

beat them 45-35 first time around.