re: Would you trade 8 for 13 and 15?

I also think they've built enough of a team culture that if a talented player is there that doesn't fit the culture, you pass on that player and feel comfortable passing because you know he was a bad fit. If they've done their due diligence they should know whether passing means taking a player they like better at 8, or trading back and still getting a guy you're targeting.

Which is why if we were going to do this, I would prefer OKC with 12, a salary dump, and a future pick(s).

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What's the benefit of dumping Temple or DG anyway?

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DG may create issues with the luxury tax at the end of his deal.

Temple's deal was made to be a trade asset to make salaries match. If we're not in the market to do that, it must be dumped.

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You see Temple leading the huddle more than anyone else. He's the one you see in all of the videos saying the last words and breaking the huddle.

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As stated earlier, his deal makes this role untenable. If he wants to be Haslem, he should have taken a Haslem-type deal or go into coaching.

Going for the money/years made him an asset purely to be moved

Whenever we talk about dumping players, we never mention Marshall. What are we seeing in his future? Is there any time for him if we draft another wing?

Naji is on an incredibly cheap deal. PURELY for a spot (and upgrade) I could see him being moved but it's unlikely.

Temple is making almost 3x what Naji is.

Much more likely a big deal happens with a guy making more like Hayes.

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What are we seeing in his future? Is there any time for him if we draft another wing?

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He can be an end of bench guy that steps in with injuries or when players may rest midseason. I’d rather have a young, athletic defensive guy like him than some vet that does legitimately nothing for us in a bind

My body is telling me to trade back, but my mind, for the sanity of this board, is telling me to stay put. If we trade back, and #8 becomes a hit, then draft GM riots will break out right as they've started to settle down.

This board has 20 people every year in every draft that are going to be stars or are the right fit at each spot. I think 8 is a crapshoot as much as 13 and 15 so I like doubling my chances of a hit with 13 and 15, but I like potential high ceiling value at 8.

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But no. Griffin has caused himself more harm than good moving down instead of just standing pat

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Eh, the moving from 4 to 8 & 17 obviously didn't pan out.

But...while this wasn't just a swap, as part of the Grizzlies deal, we essentially swapped 10 for 17, and we took the better player with 17. Williams from Memphis had a solid rookie season, but in a redraft, I'm confident Trey is going ahead of him at this point, so that swap worked in our favor.

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DG may create issues with the luxury tax at the end of his deal.

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so why are you worrying about that now? We aren't in a bad situation salary wise. there are no bad long term contracts on this team as much as you may think DG is a bad contract. He's very easily tradeable.

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Temple's deal was made to be a trade asset to make salaries match. If we're not in the market to do that, it must be dumped.

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100% agree, but i think things have changed since then.
I"m not saying i wouldn't want to trade him. If there's a move out there for a better player and Temple has to be included, then obviously you do it. But I don't want to throw assets away just to create a roster spot or save salary. His salary is not hurting us this year. It's the roster spot that needs to be cleared, assuming we wanted to add a FA or a second 1st round pick (which i don't think we will do).
So what's the point of dumping him?
Do you really want to dump Temple so we can trade down in the draft and make 2 picks instead of 1?

and i agree that he may have been kept around to help Willie in his first year and may not be needed anymore. I just don't see the point in dumping him right now. He's literally the 15th guy on the roster. Who cares who that guy is? He's actually bringing something positive to the team as the 15th guy. and again, who cares that he makes $5M instead of $2M?



I'd rather look to move up. If Ivey is there at 5, then move up and send Jax to Detroit as well as a future 1st to swap 5 and 8. I expect Sacramento to do something dumb at 4.

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I'm still trying to figure out how I feel about the trade down for Jaxson Hayes and NAW.

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You shouldn't be still in limbo on that one. You should not feel good about it, that's about it.