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With all the trade talk on here and FB groups.Shouldnt finding the head coach come first?
Posted on 9/20/20 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 9/20/20 at 8:23 pm
PelFacebook groups are fighting now lol
Keep Jrue / Jrue needs to go!
Lonzo stays or goes...
BI sucks and is a ball hog, dont give him the max.. etc..etc..etc
Shouldn't us fans stop and wait to see who is the coach and what offense does he run first?
Keep Jrue / Jrue needs to go!
Lonzo stays or goes...
BI sucks and is a ball hog, dont give him the max.. etc..etc..etc
Shouldn't us fans stop and wait to see who is the coach and what offense does he run first?
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 8:25 pm
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Posted on 9/20/20 at 8:24 pm to BayouRat15
If 90% of the fans weren't throwing emotional shite to stick on a wall then maybe.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 8:30 pm to BayouRat15
Lonzo should be traded so we aren’t forced to overpay him. Everything else depends on the offers. We, or rather Griff, doesn’t need to wait on a coach because he’s going to hire someone that “shares his vision” of the team.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:03 pm to BayouRat15
quote:
BI sucks and is a ball hog, dont give him the max.. etc..etc..etc
Stay off of Facebook.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:05 pm to BayouRat15
quote:have never been on there but I’d assume the cumulative iq for that group is right around 50
PelFacebook groups
Posted on 9/21/20 at 3:36 am to BayouRat15
Why? It's not like we have any say in what the team does or doesn't do
Posted on 9/21/20 at 9:07 am to BayouRat15
quote:
With all the trade talk on here and FB groups.Shouldnt finding the head coach come first?
1. It doesn't matter what we talk about. The front office functions independent of Pelicans Talk.
2. I hope the FO is capable of multitasking. Create a good, balanced roster and a good coach will be able to make it work. Make bad moves with the roster and it won't matter who becomes coach.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 9:51 am to Galactic Inquisitor
1. I had no clue the FO functions independent from Pelicans talk, thanks for that info
2. Bad moves, bad coach, bad. Good moves, good coach, good. Got it.
We have a say in mentioning quality information and opinions that makes sense. Much better than 10 threads about what players someone woke up with a boner to that doesn't fit on the roster.
2. Bad moves, bad coach, bad. Good moves, good coach, good. Got it.
We have a say in mentioning quality information and opinions that makes sense. Much better than 10 threads about what players someone woke up with a boner to that doesn't fit on the roster.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 9:55 am to BayouRat15
Professional Front Offices spend year round working on every scenario possible for the next few years. They have thought of what the salary cap is, who is available, multiple trade scenarios with each team, FA signings, the draft, etc.
They will bring in a HC long before any of this stuff happens, and likely want his input.
But considering Griffin said he wanted someone that "shares his vision", he will want someone that is on the complete same page as them as it goes with building.
They will bring in a HC long before any of this stuff happens, and likely want his input.
But considering Griffin said he wanted someone that "shares his vision", he will want someone that is on the complete same page as them as it goes with building.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 12:50 pm to TigerinATL
quote:Does this not also go for Jrue?
Lonzo should be traded so we aren’t forced to overpay him.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:00 pm to Epic Cajun
No Jrue will still depend on the offer. If he signs at 25 mil he would still be more valuable to us than trading him for potatoes or unproven draft players.
Also I think he has earned the respect to leave somewhat on his terms. In other words if he'd like to walk and get a larger contract then we may just let him do it > trading him to a shitty team for assets.
Also I think he has earned the respect to leave somewhat on his terms. In other words if he'd like to walk and get a larger contract then we may just let him do it > trading him to a shitty team for assets.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:12 pm to Epic Cajun
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Does this not also go for Jrue?
I'm just out on Lonzo. I don't think he's ever going to be more than an 3 and D guard, which would be fine if his likely price would be cheaper or his defense were better.
I've said before I can see Jrue being the Pels Lowry or DeRozan. If there's a good deal out there send him out. If there isn't, let him be the #3 to Zion and Ingram until the right opportunity comes along.
Jrue is getting older, but his offense is built on change of pace, not speed, and his defense is built on instinct and reputation. He bumps guys a lot when he "beats" them to the spot, but he doesn't get called because I guess he knows the angles/officiating. So I can see him keep roughly this same level of productivity even as he approaches 35 during his extension.
This post was edited on 9/21/20 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:19 pm to TigerinATL
quote:
Lonzo should be traded so we aren’t forced to overpay him. Everything else depends on the offers. We, or rather Griff, doesn’t need to wait on a coach because he’s going to hire someone that “shares his vision” of the team.
I agree.
Lonzo needs to go.
I think JJ is in the same boat. He needs to go as well. I think we can get more for him right now than we can at the trade deadline.
I don't mind if we don't trade Jrue, but i think it's pretty risky not to. Do you really plan on resigning him? Or you 100% sure he'd resign with us? If the answer isn't a confident yes to both of those, then you have to trade him this year. It's just stupid to risk losing him for nothing.
I'd be interested to see if we could get Jaylen Brown for Jrue, and what else we'd need to throw in there.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:24 pm to TeddyPadillac
I was hoping Boston lost last round and we could make a move on Marcus smart and Jayen if possible. Like I said above, if we don't trade Jrue this year then we obviously didn't get any offer worth while. Will any other 1-2 players come here during free agency and do more for us than him? Probably not. If he wants to walk then I think we respect him enough to not trade him for a bad package. If he stays then we can still trade him down the line and we aren't even sure what his contract could be yet.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:41 pm to Dantheman504
quote:Maybe Smart, but no way is Boston parting with Jaylen.
I was hoping Boston lost last round and we could make a move on Marcus smart and Jayen if possible. Like I said above, if we don't trade Jrue this year then we obviously didn't get any offer worth while. Will any other 1-2 players come here during free agency and do more for us than him? Probably not. If he wants to walk then I think we respect him enough to not trade him for a bad package. If he stays then we can still trade him down the line and we aren't even sure what his contract could be yet.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:42 pm to Dantheman504
I think most people don't realize that this is Jrue's last year under contract. He has a player option for 2022, and i see no reason why he would play under it at his age if he knows he can get another 4 year deal done.
That fact also lessens his trade value. Teams that would trade for him have to feel confident they can resign him, or else he's just a 1 year rental. Would you give up the #2 pick and a top 10 pick next year for a 1 year rental? would you give up Jaylen Brown for a 1 year rental? Would you give up Herro/Robinson for a 1 year rental? This isn't a 1 year rental of Kawhi, it's Jrue.
That fact also lessens his trade value. Teams that would trade for him have to feel confident they can resign him, or else he's just a 1 year rental. Would you give up the #2 pick and a top 10 pick next year for a 1 year rental? would you give up Jaylen Brown for a 1 year rental? Would you give up Herro/Robinson for a 1 year rental? This isn't a 1 year rental of Kawhi, it's Jrue.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:47 pm to TeddyPadillac
I mean Jrue isn't Kawhi or AD in a egotistical type of way. He was traded to a shity pelicans team and has made the absolute best out of it. I don't think he wouldn't sign a deal with Miami, Boston, etc.. The real question is would he take a pay cut to come back here? Yeah we can make a deal with those teams and have an agreed upon extension for Jrue, but what if he will take a 4/80 or less from us and help build our squad. He's just not the guy that is trying to screw anyone over so I think we take our time and look at the best decision for all parties.
This post was edited on 9/21/20 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:58 pm to NOSHAU
That's why I was hoping they lost last round. They may have put more thought into it if they were already out. Jrue is essentially Smart/ Brown in one player that would cost them 11 mil less. Obviously those players have their own skill sets but as far as fit, he would help. Celtics will have alot of money held up after they pay Tatum. Will it be worth it for them to pay Jaylen 26-28 mil as their #3 option?
This post was edited on 9/21/20 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 9/21/20 at 2:07 pm to TeddyPadillac
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I think most people don't realize that this is Jrue's last year under contract. He has a player option for 2022, and i see no reason why he would play under it at his age if he knows he can get another 4 year deal done.
MM has brought up Jrue extensions multiple times this summer I assume for this reason. If he says no then that tells you it's probably time to trade him.
With the uncertainty of the cap and league finances he might want to lock in more guaranteed money/years with an extension. He's made that choice before. Jrue's 2nd contract was considered a good deal because a lockout was looming so Jrue and other players like Steph Curry took the guaranteed money on what ended up being team friendly deals once the lockout ended.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 2:07 pm to Dantheman504
Kemba won't be a long term solution for them, and Hayward won't be there past next season, so money shouldn't be an issue for them.
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