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re: With all the trade talk on here and FB groups.Shouldnt finding the head coach come first?
Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:56 pm to NOSHAU
Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:56 pm to NOSHAU
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without gutting the entire team
That's 3 guys that averaged 27, 21 and 18 mins a game for them.
They would have to try to replace them without cap space, and no assets or draft picks. That's 3 players away from their depth, which they already don't have a whole lot of.
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 8:37 pm to Dantheman504
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Please tell me why it is a stupid point of view? Because we would have 26 million and not know what to do with it??
Exactly. When have we ever attracted a big name FA? I showed you exactly what Cleveland did and how they lost Lebron, and how they couldn’t attract FAs. I also explained to you that multiple good teams will have cap space next offseason we’d have to compete with for star players.
All that crap space will result likely in overpaying for role players.
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You think that's more stupid than emotionally spending 31 million in cap for 1 draft pick and no plan for that player?? Lol
How about you get it right.
#2 pick this year AND a very likely top 10 pick next year.
And again what are your win expectations of this team with Wiggins and with Jrue?
Posted on 9/21/20 at 9:23 pm to Soggymoss
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What's so bad about the reigning 6th man of the year?
Zero defense, operates in the same space as Zion. No thanks.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 10:03 pm to Epic Cajun
They may share the floor 10-15 minutes a game at most. I'm looking at him to come off the bench behind Zion, and start in his absence.
He cam create his own offense (something we need off the bench).
As far as no defense, there's nothing to back that up (maybe in the bubble), and you could argue he's a good defender. The Clippers defensive rating was the same with him on the floor as it was with him off, and that's with most of his minutes played with Lou who's a horrible defender.
He cam create his own offense (something we need off the bench).
As far as no defense, there's nothing to back that up (maybe in the bubble), and you could argue he's a good defender. The Clippers defensive rating was the same with him on the floor as it was with him off, and that's with most of his minutes played with Lou who's a horrible defender.
This post was edited on 9/21/20 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 9/21/20 at 10:16 pm to Soggymoss
We barely have money right now for a center and you want to spend 10 mil on a backup PF?
Posted on 9/21/20 at 10:18 pm to Dantheman504
Go back and read my other posts...
That would be my 2 targets if I'm trading Jrue and getting the cap space.
Hayes and Okafor along with another minimum guy can soak up the rest of the 20 or so minutes left at center that Zion and Harrel wouldn't play.
That would be my 2 targets if I'm trading Jrue and getting the cap space.
Hayes and Okafor along with another minimum guy can soak up the rest of the 20 or so minutes left at center that Zion and Harrel wouldn't play.
This post was edited on 9/21/20 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 9/21/20 at 10:59 pm to Soggymoss
He was getting isolated and destroyed on defense in the bubble.
He’s not a good defensive player, and I’m not shelling out 15+ mil for a backup front court player that can’t shoot and is at best average defensively.
He’s not a good defensive player, and I’m not shelling out 15+ mil for a backup front court player that can’t shoot and is at best average defensively.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 11:03 pm to Soggymoss
If we trade Jrue we would be taking back at least 1 good player and still would need money on a center and other positions. Especially considering who we get for Jrue in this scenario. I'm all for paying a backup PF but not until we have a solid center, defensive SF, and probably a facilitator. Once again what kind of contract are you trying to give Harrell and what about adding him with Hayes and Zion makes you think that's good enough to roll against Gobert, AD, Jokic, etc..?
Posted on 9/22/20 at 9:13 am to Dantheman504
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we trade Jrue we would be taking back at least 1 good player
Then why trade Jrue at all? If you trade someone like Jrue it's because we are basically saying we can't compete this year, so might as well grab assets for the future. Taking back a good player hurts that. Take the cap space and sign young guys.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 9:19 am to Soggymoss
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If you trade someone like Jrue it's because we are basically saying we can't compete this year
Or you're saying that he is in the last year of his deal, and you don't think he's part of your future so you're cashing in now.
I think its the right play to move him if you're getting good value. But I'm not sure that Griffin sees it that way. I think he still wants to win now.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 9:58 am to Fun Bunch
At the very least if they want to keep him longer, they need to offer Jrue a reasonable extension and see if he says yes or no. If he says no...you can't let someone with that much value walk for nothing in a year where the results don't matter in the grand scheme of things.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 10:02 am to TigerinATL
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At the very least if they want to keep him longer, they need to offer Jrue a reasonable extension and see if he says yes or no. If he says no...you can't let someone with that much value walk for nothing in a year where the results don't matter in the grand scheme of things.
I am 100% certain those talks have been had with his agent on some level.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 10:26 am to Soggymoss
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If you trade someone like Jrue it's because we are basically saying we can't compete this year,
Compete for what?
Posted on 9/22/20 at 11:18 am to Fun Bunch
Then you're best move in that scenario is to re-sign him to say a 4/100 type deal, then move him next offseason for a bigger haul once free agency is over. There will be alot of teams who's timeline shifts that Jrue would fit perfectly with, and that would cause a bidding war.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 11:19 am to TeddyPadillac
Well a championship obviously 
Competing is not championship or bust for us next season, its going after the 5th-6th seed, and gaining that valuable experience along the way.
Competing is not championship or bust for us next season, its going after the 5th-6th seed, and gaining that valuable experience along the way.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 11:26 am to Dantheman504
I missed the second half of your post in my reply earlier.
I spelled out earlier the deals I would give, 4/80 for FVV and 3/45 for Harrel.
If we go this route of trading Jrue, I've been a big proponent of Jrue to GSW for #2 and Minnesota pick with Wiggins going to a 3rd team into cap space (like NYK), who would likely take the contract for free simply because of his upside.
Then Ball and #2 to NYK for Payton, #8 and next years 1st. At #8 take Okoro, #13 Nesmith.
Okoro handles your defensive SF, Payton handles your 2nd team facilitator. As for a center, with Harrel on the team you start Hayes, and bring Harrel off the bench (same way Clips bring him off the bench behind Zubac). Zion has already shown he can destroy Gobert, Okafor destroyed Jokic, and Hayes COULD turn into a good defender with his body for AD.
Center by committee, and then in the playoffs you start a "death lineup" of FVV, Hart, Ingram, Zion, Harrel, if you make the playoffs first year that is.
I spelled out earlier the deals I would give, 4/80 for FVV and 3/45 for Harrel.
If we go this route of trading Jrue, I've been a big proponent of Jrue to GSW for #2 and Minnesota pick with Wiggins going to a 3rd team into cap space (like NYK), who would likely take the contract for free simply because of his upside.
Then Ball and #2 to NYK for Payton, #8 and next years 1st. At #8 take Okoro, #13 Nesmith.
Okoro handles your defensive SF, Payton handles your 2nd team facilitator. As for a center, with Harrel on the team you start Hayes, and bring Harrel off the bench (same way Clips bring him off the bench behind Zubac). Zion has already shown he can destroy Gobert, Okafor destroyed Jokic, and Hayes COULD turn into a good defender with his body for AD.
Center by committee, and then in the playoffs you start a "death lineup" of FVV, Hart, Ingram, Zion, Harrel, if you make the playoffs first year that is.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 11:35 am to Soggymoss
quote:Do that's gutting their team? Come on. Teams cannot bring on a key player by giving up nothing.
That's 3 guys that averaged 27, 21 and 18 mins a game for them.
They would have to try to replace them without cap space, and no assets or draft picks. That's 3 players away from their depth, which they already don't have a whole lot of.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 11:37 am to NOSHAU
When you have no depth already, yes it is. A team like Denver can give up 3 guys that played those kind of minutes because they have the depth to replace them. Milwaukee doesn't
Posted on 9/22/20 at 1:43 pm to Soggymoss
quote:Ilyasova played 8 min a game in the playoffs. He is not critical. I am sure they would want to keep Hill, but if he is the big cost in upgrading from Bledsoe to CP3 to keep Giannis happy, they would do it 10 out of 10 times without blinking an eye. The other option would be to try and add a 3rd team with salary to add that may be interested in someone like Wilson.
When you have no depth already, yes it is. A team like Denver can give up 3 guys that played those kind of minutes because they have the depth to replace them. Milwaukee doesn't
Posted on 9/22/20 at 1:51 pm to Soggymoss
You still didn't answer my question. If we trade Jrue for 26 million and then sign FVV for 20 mil + Harrell for 15 mil we still don't have space for other players we need like a big center.
Once again if we trade Jrue it would be for at least 1 player that cost 10- 15 mil that will contribute. The only way you get the money you want is if we let Jrue walk AFTER next season.
Even if we traded or let go of Jrue I think he would be the last domino after JJ/ Lonzo. We have to see what type of assets we get for those 2 guys and that will ultimately help us figure out a plan for Jrue.
Once again if we trade Jrue it would be for at least 1 player that cost 10- 15 mil that will contribute. The only way you get the money you want is if we let Jrue walk AFTER next season.
Even if we traded or let go of Jrue I think he would be the last domino after JJ/ Lonzo. We have to see what type of assets we get for those 2 guys and that will ultimately help us figure out a plan for Jrue.
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