re: Who we picking at 8?

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Why not? Should be huh

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True, I like some of the wings/guards more but getting the bpa is the way imo.

After watching McGee and Ayton take JV and co to the cleaners, he has to be on the board for us. Plus he’s not a huge liability at the line

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Sharpe going 4 now. That wingspan is ridiculous.

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Wonder how far Ivey will drop if at all. Been seeing smoke he could drop some. It happened to Halliburton so you never know. No one expected that.

And because he fits this team like a glove.

Don't overthink this Pels. If Mathurin is there at 8 you run to the podium.

the vast majority of draft picks flame out

Williams game combined with his size and athletic profile make him one of the safest bets in the lottery. It translates

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Even if he pans out to be great like Ayton or Gobert, is there really a benefit to having that guy and then paying him a max contract to be your center?

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Yes?

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Watching his highlights now... one thing that stood out was just how fricking TERRIBLE AJ Griffin is on D. AJ would get blown by like he's standing still hoping Williams would have his back. Please pelicans stay the frick away from him.

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Williams game combined with his size and athletic profile make him one of the safest bets in the lottery. It translates

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I would never call taking a C at any position other than #1 a safe bet, and history backs that up.
I'm not saying Williams won't be good, but it's a silly risk to take at #8, just like drafting Jaxson. Even if they reach their peak (whatever that is for a 5 now a days, i don't know), was it worth it to draft them over someone like Cam Johnson or Tyler Herro?

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Yes?

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that must be why Utah is going to explore trading maxed out Gobert this offseason, and PHX might not want to give Ayton the max.



this is why so many people bust that are taken in that 6-12ish range. Some teams are just looking at measurements and drafting on potential, instead of taking the guy that led his team to somethign special, or the guy that played second fiddle a bit as an underclassman to the upperclassman but showed the promise of being something more. We do the combine, no different in football, and certain dumb teams become enamored with the measurements instead of their actual game.




lets list the guys taken in the top 10 over the last few years that play the 4/5

Mobley #3
Wisman #2
Okungwu #6
Toppin #8
Jalen Smith #10
Zion #1
Jaxson #8
Rui #9
Atyon #1
Bagley #2
JJJ #4
Bamba #6
Wendel Carter #7
Isaac #6
Markkanan #7
Zach Collins #10
Dragan Bender #4
Marquess Chriss #8
Poeltl #9
Thon Maker #10
Kat #1
Okafor #3
Porzingis #4
Cauley Stein #6
Kaminsky #9
Embiid #3
Aaron Gordon #4
Julius Randle #7
Noah Vonleh #9
Cody Zeller #4
Alex Len #5
Nerlens #6
Mr Glass #1
Thomas Robinson #5
Drummond #9

that's the last 10 drafts. 35 guys taken that were PF/C
If you take out the 4 guys draft #1, b/c like i said, that's the only position that is a sure thing, then you have 1 MVP level player in Embiid, really solid players in Mobley, JJJ, Drummond, Gordon and Randle (i guess i can put Randle there), Markannan, Porzingis and Poeltl are good players, and Bagley might be one as well. jury still out on Okungwu and Wiseman, but not looking good. You've got 21 out of 31 guys that really didn't do a whole lot of anything, some more than others, but just about all 21 would be considered busts b/c of where they were drafted, and you can argue that Bagley and Porzingis are busts b/c of where they were drafted, even though they are good players.
If you notice something about the few guys that weren't busts, they all have an offensive game, other than Drummond.

What is Mark Williams offensive game? Are you really drafting him in hopes he becomes Gobert, who's a one of a kind for the part?

That’s a nonsensical wall of text. You could do the bust exercise for any position

I never mentioned Gobert or Ayton, not sure what they have to do with anything. Though they are main cogs on some very successful teams. I’m simply looking at Williams as option to defend the post and product the rim since Jonas and Zion are sieves on defense

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lets list the guys taken in the top 10 over the last few years that play the 4/5

Mobley #3
Wisman #2
Okungwu #6
Toppin #8
Jalen Smith #10
Zion #1
Jaxson #8
Rui #9
Atyon #1
Bagley #2
JJJ #4
Bamba #6
Wendel Carter #7
Isaac #6
Markkanan #7
Zach Collins #10
Dragan Bender #4
Marquess Chriss #8
Poeltl #9
Thon Maker #10
Kat #1
Okafor #3
Porzingis #4
Cauley Stein #6
Kaminsky #9
Embiid #3
Aaron Gordon #4
Julius Randle #7
Noah Vonleh #9
Cody Zeller #4
Alex Len #5
Nerlens #6
Mr Glass #1
Thomas Robinson #5
Drummond #9

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Can you narrow this list down to the guys who are at least 7’2” 240 lb with 7’7” wing spans and 9’9” standings? Trying to figure out what in tarnation some of those guys have to do with Williams

Hollinger just dropped his top-20 prospects and Davis isn't on it

*ETA: no Branham on it, either. Has to be just really shitty writing.