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re: What Marc Stein said about DQ

Posted on 9/24/26 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 6:37 pm to
All Star caliber abilities, just not all 5 position abilities
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:53 pm to
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I mean, Queen was awful defensively last season.


I mean, no he wasn’t.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:16 pm to
Yes, DQ was bad defensively. He's too short to defend at the center position (and can't jump), and his feet are too slow to defend at the power forward position.

There were some good moments: I liked that he refused to get pushed around and was strong against Jokic and other big centers.

And he was a rookie, and almost all rookies are poor defenders. So he'll be a better defender this year, but the question is how much better.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 7:15 am to
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He's too short to defend at the center position (and can't jump),


No he isn’t. His standing reach is similar to both Bam and Jarrett Allen. Stop looking at just his height. It means very little.
Anyone who weighs 250lbs can defend the center position. That short lazy fatass should be defending 5s as well. Keeping someone out of the paint is more important than being tall, see Chet.
There’s a reason Draymond can defend 5s. It’s not b/c he tries harder than others. It’s b/c he’s fricking strong, and at 230lbs with a lower center of gravity and his 7’1” wingspan, and his instincts, he’s capable of holding his ground against most bigs in the league, despite being 6’6”.

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and his feet are too slow to defend at the power forward position.


No they aren’t.


There’s a reason he was top 1/3 in the league in defending in isolation as well as in post ups. And opponents shot 32% from 3 against him. None of that says he is a bad defender. It’s quite the opposite.


I have to tell kids I coach all the time that no one is going to defend their man one on one all the time and stop them. It’s impossible. Everyone gets beat off the dribble from time to time. Everyone. It’s not your fault your man got by you and got an open layup. It’s your 4 teammates fault they weren’t in a position to help you that your man got an open layup.
We were bad team defensively more often than not. Don’t confuse our bad strategy and team defense (usually b/c of lazy fatass) with certain individuals being bad on defense. There were lineups that played significant minutes that were really good defensively. Hopefully our new coach finds those right lineups and also instills a better defensive philosophy. We have the personnel to be a good defensive team.
Posted by duyp
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:14 am to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 8:55 am to
I've seen several things that indicate that DQ is going to show up in fantastic shape this year. Fingers crossed that he can make a big sophomore leap.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 9:14 am to
He is not near as athletic as Bam or Allen. What was his vertical jump? Maybe it was better than it appeared on the court last year or maybe he just never got into shape. This year will be a good test.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 9:23 am to
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There were some good moments: I liked that he refused to get pushed around and was strong against Jokic and other big centers.

And he was a rookie, and almost all rookies are poor defenders. So he'll be a better defender this year, but the question is how much better.

You left out the most important part. He can go shot for shot with Jokic. Jokic isn't an amazing defender but he sure as hell can do whatever he wants. Queen can be an average defender and still out compete other centers if their defense can't keep up with his offense and overall abilities.

The best we have been the last few years was with Val who was a terrible defender but could pop off for 20pts and neutralize the defensive struggles.

Queen is already a better defender than Val and has way more abilities on the offensive side.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 9:30 am to
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He is not near as athletic as Bam or Allen


No he is not. That doesn’t mean anything. Jaxson Hayes is an athletic freak. Pretty worthless defender in the NBA for the most part. All that length and athleticism yet he still sucked. This past year he seemed to take a turn and finally became a good defensive player.


DQ is not much different than Al Horford.

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What was his vertical jump?

Doesn’t matter. He’s not the type of player you funnel ball handlers to so he can block/alter shots at the rim. His job is to use his body and keep bigs from backing him down, and to play good TEAM defense to keep opponents from getting into the paint off the dribble.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 4:39 pm to
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I mean, no he wasn’t.
This is a wild take
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
113113 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 4:40 pm to
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You left out the most important part. He can go shot for shot with Jokic
Uhh, what?
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13990 posts
Posted on 9/25/26 at 5:07 pm to
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quote:
He is not near as athletic as Bam or Allen


No he is not. That doesn’t mean anything. Jaxson Hayes is an athletic freak. Pretty worthless defender in the NBA for the most part. All that length and athleticism yet he still sucked. This past year he seemed to take a turn and finally became a good defensive player.


DQ is not much different than Al Horford.

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What was his vertical jump?

Doesn’t matter. He’s not the type of player you funnel ball handlers to so he can block/alter shots at the rim. His job is to use his body and keep bigs from backing him down, and to play good TEAM defense to keep opponents from getting into the paint off the dribble.
He showed slow/heavy feet last year on defense. Want to see him move better which may help his rim protection.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 9/25/26 at 5:08 pm to
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You left out the most important part. He can go shot for shot with Jokic.
Posted by New City Champ
Member since Jul 2018
654 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 1:23 am to
the most realistic current comp for DQ is Sengun. Many of the same plusses and minuses....
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 3:45 am to
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the most realistic current comp for DQ is Sengun. Many of the same plusses and minuses....


My favorite comp for Queen is Kevin Love. Both slow and super strong. Love really improved his fitness early to become an incredible rebounder. But he didn't really pop to year 3. It takes time.

I believe Queen will eventually play more 4. But probably not this year.
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