re: What is your base for an AD trade?

All indications are Boston will give up anything needed to get AD there, and Tatum wouldnt be off the table as there is no other way they could match the value other teams would be offering.

You HAVE to get Tatum back in a Boston deal, and I'm sure they will eventually agree to that.

I would love Mitchell Robinson back in a Knicks trade.

I think the Clippers could be a dark horse. I'm not sure how S&Ts work these days, but if you could bring in Tobias after he signs, SGA, Robinson, and a pick and offload Hill's contract as well, that would be a pretty good haul.

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Lol Ball's ceiling is huge. He just hit 5/9 threes today and is already one of the leagues best defenders. He's also 20 years oldd

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What is ball’s ceiling?

He just hit 5/9? What about his other 400 attempts from 3

And he’s 21

Boston wants Kyrie and AD as their 2 cornerstones of the franchise, they dont want to move Kyrie to bring him in which is why they pretty much have to wait.

I personally like Gentry's system, I dont like his rotations though. I think we can win with his system if we have the right players with depth (that's the key) where we are not having to play jrue 38-41 minutes. Dell has gotten smarter and more calculated with his moves these last 2 years and pretty much came out ahead in all trades, so I would be comfortable with him pulling off an AD trade and believe he would get max value in return.

Yep, if AD declines the extension, you immediately fire Demps and Gentry and let the new blood start the rebuild from scratch.

I doubt he would turn down that supermax too much money to pass on. But if that’s the case no matter who the trade is with send me 2 young stars and 2 1st rounders at minimum

Lakers ball Ingram Kuzma and hart

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You guys can put out all the trades and what the team would look like on paper but you are skipping a HUGE step?

Who is the coach? Who is the GM? What is the system?

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Dell will be gone this summer if AD is being traded. Gentry would be gone too. With Tom out of the picture and no pressure to keep AD, they will do a proper ground up rebuild. I think any new GM will focus on draft assets and young players in an AD trade to sell excitement and development as opposed to taking vets and trying to stay in NBA limbo. Too early to speculate on the new GM/coach combo, but I would think they will have a pace/movement philosophy as that is what works and sells enthusiasm.

It is easy to project the teams who have been after him (BOS & LAL) as interested, but there is so much space available this summer it is unknown what teams will be looking to form the next super team. Someone like the Hawks will have high draft picks and multiple young assets plus room for 2 max contracts. The Nets are going to have space and assets, the knicks will have space, the Bulls will have space and assets.

If the Bulls, Nets, Knicks, or Hawks get the #1 overall, they have the draft capital and young assets to get AD and the space to sign another max if not 2 to keep him. Chicago would let him play in his hometown potentially with his buddy Kyrie.

So, you think AD says he will not re-sign and Gayle or Loomis pushes pause and then cleans house, interviews a bunch of candidates to make sure they get the right guy. Then, he comes in and finds a coach and they discuss the direction they wanna go, then re-open trade talks and accept bids?

I don't agree. I agree that is what they SHOULD do. But I don't see it. Maybe if AD tells them on May 15th he won't sign the extension. But I have no faith in Gayle or Loomis to understand or frankly care that much about doing this the right way. I bet Dell gets to make the trade and that would be all kind of backwards