re: What happens if we can’t find a good enough trade for BI?

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Looks like pels prefer Murray.

I know they would prefer Murray over Trae because Murray fits Willie’s coaching style better, but they should say frick Willie and get the better talent

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Trey gets the minutes he needs to develop into a true 2nd star.

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I think this is an important part of the trade discussion. Do we think Trey can develop into a legit 2nd star?

If his ceiling is a high quality role player then you probably need to go for someone like a Trae Young or Dejounte Murray to be that number 2. If we think he has the potential to be a legit number 2, then you can probably look for more high quality role players that also are good fits, someone like Jarrett Allen, and try to get multiple pieces in a trade.

Yes, Trae is more of a 1 to Murray being more of a 2. I guess I meant more of another all-star caliber player to pair with Zion. The question remains, do we think Trey can be legit Robin to Zion.

I think you’re misunderstanding what I said when I’m talking about 1,2,3 roles.

1st star, 2nd star, 3rd star

Ideally you would hope Trey can develop into that 2nd star, but it’s unlikely. We need to trade for that 2nd star, and that’s not Murray either.

My bad, I did. To your point I think your 1,2, and 3 are in terms of impactful at high competitive moments, and availability.

Yea I agree, defense absolutely matters still in this game. The big drawback on Trae Young is his atrocious defense and small size but the fricker can score. His contract would also be a huge hit to us. It would mean you’d have to go very cheap at center. He would bring that 1b to Zion’s 1a no doubt though. He’s a better talent than Murray. but Murray gives you a big PG at 6’5” that is a very good on ball defender that would take some pressure off Herb being our entire defense. Teams wouldn’t be able to screen Herb out of the play with Murray there and he’s a solid 20 a game scorer making half of Young’s contract. Both have their merits and drawbacks.

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His contract would also be a huge hit to us. It would mean you’d have to go very cheap at center.

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IMO, if you get Trae you have to trade CJ in some sort of deal that brings in a rim protecting center. You also need to keep Herb.

A Zion/Trae pairing has a much higher ceiling than a Zion/Murray pairing, IMO, Murray is more of a high end 3rd option than a second option.

It depends what the price is for Allen. We wouldn’t have BI to be the centerpiece of a deal. It would have to be draft capital. I think it would take 3 1st rounders to get Allen. Luckily we have it to give but that would be the end of us having extra draft capital so a Young, Herb, Trey, Zion, Allen starting 5 with CJ coming off the bench or trading him would be a make or break move. If they don’t win with that there are no do-overs. The entire thing would have to be blown up.