- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: What are you guys actuall expecting from our rookie?
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:51 am to Toula
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:51 am to Toula
Thing that has my mind racing, is: If you draft Dunn and AD agrees to play more Center, would re-signing Ryno (even at 18 mil) be smart?
I mean, with Dunn, Jrue, and QPon, you would have 3 good perimeter defenders who can keep the bigs from getting attacked so easily. And offensively, two playmakers with AD and Ryno could be nasty
It's worth considering at least
I mean, with Dunn, Jrue, and QPon, you would have 3 good perimeter defenders who can keep the bigs from getting attacked so easily. And offensively, two playmakers with AD and Ryno could be nasty
It's worth considering at least
2
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:53 am to Crewz
wait...is anyone really thinking/hoping/expecting this team no matter who the moving parts are, to contend next year? we've seen this movie before...
yes davis is a beast and should be better
yes holiday is finally coming into his own
but otherwise, this is a broken team that needs to go backwards in the short term, not reach up for the 8th seed again
the pels need young talent that can grow
signing batum or crabbe or barnes to a huge deal is madness
yes davis is a beast and should be better
yes holiday is finally coming into his own
but otherwise, this is a broken team that needs to go backwards in the short term, not reach up for the 8th seed again
the pels need young talent that can grow
signing batum or crabbe or barnes to a huge deal is madness
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:55 am to cgrand
This team would have more raw talent than Portland. Maybe getting rid of some of the divas for some hungry guys could result in a Portland or Phoenix from a few years ago type season where the sum is greater than its parts
I mean, add Buddy and Batum and this team has way more talent than Portland or Dappas this year, no?
I mean, add Buddy and Batum and this team has way more talent than Portland or Dappas this year, no?
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:58 am to Crewz
Let's get one thing straight- this team ain't ever winning a title. Ever
But if you win 55 out of the 90 games you play, then you are happier more nights than not. That is still a good thing. That should be the realistic goal IMO
But if you win 55 out of the 90 games you play, then you are happier more nights than not. That is still a good thing. That should be the realistic goal IMO
Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:01 pm to Crewz
no
lillard and mccollum might be the 2nd best guard duo in the league. leonard and plumlee are better than asik and ajinca. they have depth on the wings and the front court with young athletic players that can play defense, and crabbe is about to break loose
plus they have a top-5 coach
in no scenario are the pels better than the blazers next year. my opinion, of course
lillard and mccollum might be the 2nd best guard duo in the league. leonard and plumlee are better than asik and ajinca. they have depth on the wings and the front court with young athletic players that can play defense, and crabbe is about to break loose
plus they have a top-5 coach
in no scenario are the pels better than the blazers next year. my opinion, of course
Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:03 pm to Crewz
quote:
Let's get one thing straight- this team ain't ever winning a title. Ever
But if you win 55 out of the 90 games you play, then you are happier more nights than not. That is still a good thing. That should be the realistic goal IMO
thats fine, i agree with you 100%
but this is a 25-30 win team as constituted
they need at LEAST 5 more real NBA players
that aint happening unless its thru the draft
Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:09 pm to Crewz
quote:
Thing that has my mind racing, is: If you draft Dunn and AD agrees to play more Center, would re-signing Ryno (even at 18 mil) be smart?
I mean, with Dunn, Jrue, and QPon, you would have 3 good perimeter defenders who can keep the bigs from getting attacked so easily. And offensively, two playmakers with AD and Ryno could be nasty
It's worth considering at least
I don't think it is an issue because I don't think Ryan will resign unless we greatly overpay. However I have no interest in bringing back Ryan. I do not want to ahve to rely on Dunn, Jrue, and QPon to all play big time minutes and stay healthy just so we can overpay to bring back Ryan who doesn't seem to like Gentry's system and try to hide him on defense.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:12 pm to Crewz
quote:
Let's get one thing straight- this team ain't ever winning a title. Ever
-Fan commenting on the Saints in 2003
Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:14 pm to cgrand
You wouldn't have said ANY of that in September
Again, if you have 12 guys who buy in and humble themselves, the sum can be far greater than their parts.
Again, if you have 12 guys who buy in and humble themselves, the sum can be far greater than their parts.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:18 pm to Jester
I hate that simple argument I have seen 1000 times, so I won't even dignify it
Apples and oranges. But I'd wager a hefty amount if people put their money where their faith is
Apples and oranges. But I'd wager a hefty amount if people put their money where their faith is
Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:20 pm to Toula
I don't think last season changed my mind at all about this teams title chances, they'll have to get extremely lucky and have a lot of things fall their way to have a shot. Similar to the Saints.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:23 pm to Crewz
Damian Lillard came into a very similar situation that Kris Dunn could be walking into next year. A top flight PF with some veteran talent around him. I'm not saying Dunn or Hield would put up that type of year, but it's easy to see how a 2014 Davis and 2015 Holiday could free up responsibility and make the transition less painful than others, particularly for 4 year college players who come in with an established skill set and the confidence of their coach.
Do I expect much? No. But let's not forget Davis still has MVP candidate potential and that wild card makes this situation unique.
Do I expect much? No. But let's not forget Davis still has MVP candidate potential and that wild card makes this situation unique.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:24 pm to Crewz
Actually, to be fair, I will modify it. This team has no shot at a title with Benson alive. Once he gives the team up or passes, maybe someone will come in and do things the right way. Then, maybe they will have some chance
Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:25 pm to Crewz
quote:
I hate that simple argument I have seen 1000 times, so I won't even dignify it
Apples and oranges. But I'd wager a hefty amount if people put their money where their faith is
I don't think anyone believes the team is going to win it all, but want tos ee them make a conference finals or something. If you are so supremely confident this team will never win a title then I will wager $20 at 200-1 odds that we win a championship in the next 5 years.
ETA - I will also have you donate 100% of proceeds to charity if I win.
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:27 pm to Crewz
quote:
You wouldn't have said ANY of that in September
nope, youre right, i wouldnt have
i was fired up for an AD supernova, a healthy supporting cast, and a decent defensive scheme. we got none of that, and ive seen enough of these players
they either cant play, or cant stay on the court, or both. and even in september, a middle seed was the ceiling. now, they are substantially worse, and need to start over
you are looking at portland and satying, "we can do that". i am looking at portland and saying, "we should do what they did"
Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:28 pm to Crewz
quote:
would re-signing Ryno
No
quote:
(even at 18 mil)
No No
quote:
be smart?
No.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:28 pm to cgrand
I expect nothing because demps will most likely trade it.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:31 pm to Crewz
quote:
I hate that simple argument I have seen 1000 times, so I won't even dignify it
Because it is right and flies directly in the face of your absurd statement? Never and ever are VERY powerful words.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 12:33 pm to cgrand
quote:
you are looking at portland and satying, "we can do that". i am looking at portland and saying, "we should do what they did"
It's nearly too late. We should have done what OKC did, what GS did, what Portland did. They all built through the draft. All 3 landed superstars in the draft then used the 2-3 year learning curve of said superstar to obtain more lottery players.
Portland was able to withstand losing Batum, LMA, and RoLo because of the young talent they drafted.
Problem is the current team structure is so fricked, we are having to do this draft thing 5 years into ADs career. Which is 5 years too late.
We are trying to fix the airplane in midair.
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 5/19/16 at 2:45 pm to Crewz
Am I the only one who thinks, barring another catastrophic injury year, we could make the playoffs with Buddy or Dunn instead of Gordon and a no defense black hole on offense getting major minutes?
We have some solid young contributors in Frazier, BDJ and maybe Ennis to help our bench out. Plus Dante and the new rookie. A healthy Quincy is a much better player than Gee. Maybe we finally start jrue and Tyreke together and all those advanced stats that love that duo come true. Maybe a healthy training camp shows us what we were hoping for last year. Nash and Amare level of pace and offense. And the defense improved to 22nd overall, Erman usually has his defense improve greatly the second season he is there.
We had so many injuries to start the year I don't think you can truly say what we could be.
To me this roster is better than when we won 45 games and made the playoffs
Jrue/Frazier
Tyreke/Heild/BDJ
Quincy/Crabbe/Ennis
AD/Dante/Free Agent
Asik/Ajinca/Perk
I'm an eternal optimist and I don't think it's crazy for this team next year to be the 6-8 seed with 45-50 wins.
We have some solid young contributors in Frazier, BDJ and maybe Ennis to help our bench out. Plus Dante and the new rookie. A healthy Quincy is a much better player than Gee. Maybe we finally start jrue and Tyreke together and all those advanced stats that love that duo come true. Maybe a healthy training camp shows us what we were hoping for last year. Nash and Amare level of pace and offense. And the defense improved to 22nd overall, Erman usually has his defense improve greatly the second season he is there.
We had so many injuries to start the year I don't think you can truly say what we could be.
To me this roster is better than when we won 45 games and made the playoffs
Jrue/Frazier
Tyreke/Heild/BDJ
Quincy/Crabbe/Ennis
AD/Dante/Free Agent
Asik/Ajinca/Perk
I'm an eternal optimist and I don't think it's crazy for this team next year to be the 6-8 seed with 45-50 wins.
Page 3 of 7
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News