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re: Welp, Reke WON'T be ready to start the season (per Gentry)...

Posted on 7/16/16 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 7/16/16 at 1:00 pm to
excellent info in this thread from you and MM
I did not know how the insurance thing worked
Posted by NOFOX
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Posted on 7/16/16 at 1:57 pm to
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see how you could read it that way, and maybe that's right. But that's a pretty bad insurance policy if it only pays for a small fraction of your losses. A player misses 60% of the season and I'm only compensated for 10% of that loss?


But it can span multiple seasons, so if there is more than one year left, then you are compensated for more than 10%. If a player misses 50% of the season (41 games), then for the rest of the season insurance pays 80% of his salary (up to $175k per game). So for a 1 yr $10M/yr player missing the whole season insurance would pay $4M. However for a guy with 2 yr $10M/yr left missing the last 2 years, insurance would pay $14M.

It sounds bad, but that is how the Coon paragraph reads. It sounds like the waiting period is a trigger for payment. "41 game waiting period...AFTER WHICH the insurance company pays 80%... of player's REMAINING base salary"

None of the base salary from the 41 games waiting period would be "remaining".
Posted by sma19
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Posted on 7/16/16 at 2:17 pm to
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If an insured player is disabled, there is a 41 game waiting period, after which the insurance company pays 80% of the guaranteed portion of the player's remaining base salary, up to $175,000 per regular season game. The waiting period can span seasons, and the player even can attempt to come back -- if he does and finds that he is unable to play, the 41-game count resumes (as long as he stopped playing due to the same injury).


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the 41-game count resumes


That to me means they're counting the past games. It implies that they start paying at the beginning of an injury just so long as it is > 40 games.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/16/16 at 2:23 pm to
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That to me means they're counting the past games. It implies that they start paying at the beginning of an injury just so long as it is > 40 games.


To me that just implies that the waiting period doesn't reset if the player makes a failed comeback. Waiting period clock tolls if the player makes comeback, but then goes out again for same injury. In other words if a player makes a comeback after 35 games, plays one game and then goes out again. The 41 game waiting period doesn't restart. Simply missing another 6 games will trigger the policy.
Posted by sma19
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Posted on 7/16/16 at 3:06 pm to
I could see that. Hope it's my way but it reads closer to yours. Would be a nice chunk of change
Posted by 504ByrdGang
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 9:27 pm to
Posted by Solo
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 9:28 pm to
Straight gas
Posted by Spitting Venom
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 9:34 pm to
That is hilarious

#yeah
Posted by 504ByrdGang
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 10:20 pm to
He must lurk on here
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 10:58 pm to
As hard as he plays I really hope we can find a spot for him here that works.

I believe in Reke!
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:50 pm to
errybody knew that.

November

Posted by NOLA Bronco
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:17 am to
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He must lurk on here


More power to him. Though I would imagine it is more a response to the circulating rumors from the local, national and connected guys in the organization talking on his health, fit and talk of him trying to be moved.

My issue with Reke is/was never effort, it was what he put his effort into.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:25 am to
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My issue with Reke is/was never effort


They don't call him "WolveReke" for nothing. Guy has had injuries that would put him out for "2-3 weeks" and showed up after missing one or two games.
Posted by NOLA Bronco
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:46 am to
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They don't call him "WolveReke" for nothing. Guy has had injuries that would put him out for "2-3 weeks" and showed up after missing one or two games.


For his sake I hope it hasn't caught up to him.
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:55 am to
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More power to him. Though I would imagine it is more a response to the circulating rumors from the local, national and connected guys in the organization talking on his health, fit and talk of him trying to be moved. 

My issue with Reke is/was never effort, it was what he put his effort into.





Probably but, Its not hard to believe a guy wouldnt check out a site that discussed him and his job daily. The difference from reporters saying he should be moved for fit and people on here calling him a bum and a negative to the team. Although BSS and some writer of TBW have led the anti Tyreke rallies. I'm sure he's either seen or heard all of it.
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:58 am to
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As hard as he plays I really hope we can find a spot for him here that works.

I believe in Reke!




Don't think him finding a spot is a issue. Regardless of fit he's probably the second most talented player on the team. He is too good not to play major mins despite what most guys say. When this team is struggling to score you think Gentry will look at the bench at Moore, Galloway, Yield, and Hill and tell them I need you to get me a quick bucket?
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 7:08 am to
If you really think that there are people that wouldn't want him if he could help, then I don't know what to tell you. For the millionth time, nobody has an issue with the guy or is hating on his talent level pre-injury

We just have info (that you didn't believe until you heard it from Gentry, but we were saying weeks ago), that him coming back and helping in the near future is a long shot. The team had to approach FA and the draft this year assuming he won't play. Anything he does give us gravy

That is not hating. That is not anti-Tyreke. And yes, he does have the second most talent, but he probably has the lowest basketball IQ and is a bad fit. That is also the belief held by some inside the org, but I doubt you will believe that unless they come out and say it (which they won't), but like the injury it is true

I have no idea why you are so obsessed with this one player, but you gotta stop acting like other people are railroading him. If he could help, every Pel fan would love to have him help over sitting on the bench, taking up 10 million in dead money

Some of us just have a little more info outside of his Instagram posts
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8257 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 7:21 am to
Not reading all that, but our training staff sucks and they should all be fired.

Reke should run the 2s.

Peace out.
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2495 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 7:53 am to
I've been knowing he won't be ready for the start of the season and I've been saying Dec for a while now. I have a person who gives me some inside scoop so I am well aware of the situation that has been going on. Him not rehabbing, disappearing, experimental ____, money reason why hes here, and certain guys not liking him. Well aware of how low is ball IQ. I also think the roster was being to withstand a rash of injuries again instead of constantly signing guys to play key roles mid season. I don't think he should be part of the teams future but do think he can offer us more than what we can get for him. Maybe I like him as a player so much because he was the only guy the past few years who constantly stepped up and played well outside of his asked role with of course AD being the main guy. Maybe you think his return is less likely and his career is done but I'm a bit more optimistic. What he could gives us for 50 games next season would be better than anything we can get for him along with the cap space next FA.
This post was edited on 7/22/16 at 11:43 am
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 8:06 am to
Even if he plays 2 or 3 hundred minutes for this team next year, it is clear as day that there is a zero percent chance that he is on the team the following year

I guess I just don't understand why you spend so much time fighting people about this guy. Let it go. Focus on guys who actually matter. Reke will maybe play 1 percent of the total minutes the Pels play over the next 3-4 years, at most. Yet, he is the subject of 80 percent of your posts. Let it go.
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