re: Utah wants a first for Kessler

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That doesn't explain why he only put up 10 and 6 in 33 minutes against summer league competition.

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And when Edey did face him seems like Edey got the better of him. Not sure if Edey is that good or Kessler is that bad.

Hard to take much away from Summer League to be honest. The teams don't practice together much, there's no cohesion, and the vast majority of these guys will never step foot in an NBA game. Total no ones that never did shite in the NBA have dominated, and all-stars have struggled

We've seen what he can do in the actual NBA, and he's pretty good. Good defender, good rim runner, good rebounder.

He had a down year, however.

I wouldn't give up a completely unprotected 1st for him, but I would give a protected 26 one up.

We are kinda desperate, that's just the situation we appear to be in.

Griff, obviously disagrees

Give them BI. According to PT, he’s worth at least 4 first round picks.

frick it give em two. Walker only needs to block shots and rebound. If having Murray run the point can get BI back to take 6-8 threes a game like his first couple seasons here, all that discussion about fit will go out the window.

I refuse to give them two firsts in this new cba. I like Kessler a lot but that’s fricking steep.

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Yeah, for some reason I don’t believe this, either that or Ainge has fallen off the deep end

According to picks owed, the Knicks have the following. Pretty sure it is NOT updated post-Bridges trade.

2025 - Own; DET 14-30 (via HOU to OKC); MIL 5-30 (via NOP to POR to DET); WAS 11-30 (via HOU to OKC)

2026 - Own; DET 12-30 if not already settled (via HOU to OKC); WAS 9-30 if not already settled (via HOU to OKC)

2027 - Own; DET 10-30 if not already settled (via HOU to OKC)

2028 - Own

2029 - Own

2030 - Own

2031 - Own


Considering the Knicks sent out four unprotected picks and a swap, my assumption is that the remaining picks they are trying to send out are heavily protected Pistons and Wizards picks.


Neither of those two teams look likely to be out of the top 10 anytime soon,

Kessler and Paul Reed and we would be set with Theis acting as the 3rd C role that Zeller played last year.

Was told by someone with contacts within the organization that the Pels did actually check in with Utah on Kessler. The response was that the asking price was not close to reasonable. Not sure what the plan is.