re: Trey agrees to an extension for 4/112, Griff special, no options

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Come on. No chance they extend BI long term.

The financials don’t make sense that way.

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It does if you move CJ.

Lets say we extend him 4/180. That puts us at 171.6mil with 10 guys next year.

Ingram - 45m
Zion - 39.5m
Murray - 31.5m
Murphy - 25m
Jones - 13.9m
Hawkins - 4.7m
Alvarado - 4.5m
Missi - 3.35m
Matkovic - 1.95m
Reeves - 1.95m

Another 1st adds another 3m, 11 guys which gives you roughly 12mil below the cap.

Your roster would be flawed without a center and a backup PF still, which I think is still the biggest question mark in this.

PG: Murray/Alvarado
SG: Jones/Hawkins/Reeves
SF: Ingram/Murphy
PF: Williamson/Murphy
C: [?]/Missi/Matkovic

About the only thing injuries are good for.

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It does if you move CJ.

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It would be a terrible allocation of resources, they are too similar of players

BI and CJ are not similar, at all.


I’m not saying we are keeping BI, or that we should resign him now.
Just that this Trey signing has no bearing on BI.
This was an obvious extension. Simple as that.

We are playing the next two months to figure out what we are going to do with BI and CJ.

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You did

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I didn't mention CJ...

I was very obviously referring to BI and Trey.

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I’m not saying we are keeping BI, or that we should resign him now.
Just that this Trey signing has no bearing on BI.

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The extension has a bearing on BI in the sense that the FO made a decision to part with BI in favor of Trey under the assumption that BI would cost more than $40M AAV and Trey would cost less than $30M AAV.

That calculation may have changed if BI dropped his ask considerably or Trey's agent pushed him to chase a 25% max in RFA. However, with Trey extended, we now have 2 starting wings locked in through 26-27 for less than 25% of the cap to play alongside Zion and Dejounte.

With Zion as the #1 and Murray in the fold, a $40M+ AAV BI extension makes no sense from a roster construction and salary cap perspective, which is why we tried to trade him this summer and why we will look to move him before the trade deadline or in a S&T this summer.

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The extension has a bearing on BI in the sense that the FO made a decision to part with BI in favor of Trey under the assumption that BI would cost more than $40M AAV and Trey would cost less than $30M AAV.

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That has not happened at all.
Trey was always getting extended b/c it’s the smart thing to do whether they keep him or not, not that we have plans on not keeping him.

They haven’t all of a sudden decided to not keep BI now just b/c of Treys extension.

What is clear is BI and/or CJ won’t be on this team next year, and that’s been clear since July.

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With Zion as the #1 and Murray in the fold, a $40M+ AAV BI extension makes no sense from a roster construction and salary cap perspective,

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And you can argue getting rid of a guy who can get his own shot off and not replacing that skill set makes no sense from a roster construcion perspective.

BI and CJ are set to make $70Mish next year.

We are at $116M for next year with 7 players, not including CJ.
Zion
Murray
Trey
Herb
Jose
Hawkins
Missi

The tax line is goign to be almost $190M. That leaves around $70M to fill out the roster.
You can either move forward with CJ and go get a real center and a bunch of minimums and a draft pick.
Or you can go with BI and a cheap center and a bunch of minimums and a draft pick.


We need to see what we look like to start the season.
If BI, AND THE TEAM, play better with Murray as the PG, and the other big one being that Hawkins steps his game up, then CJ is going to be on the move b/c Hawkins replaces him for cheap.
If BI does'nt work well, which likely means small ball doesn't work well, then the solution is simple....you move BI for the best 5 that fits this team. And yes i can expect scenario 2 to be what happens. I dont' think small ball is going to work, but i'm still anxious to see it with Murray/Herb/BI/Trey/Zion. I do'nt think Zion, or the coaches, are going to do what's necessary to make it work, which means Zion needs to defend the bigger 5's using his body. They aren't going to make him take that punishment, and i don't blame them, but that's the only way it works. BI/Trey/Herb cannot defend the typical 5, and Zion doesn't run the floor enough to make them pay for it on the other end.

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Trey agrees to an extension for 4/112

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