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re: This article is pretty damning - Inside Draft Night - Shamit

Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:02 am to
Posted by RUFshreve
Shree'pote
Member since Jul 2016
3030 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:02 am to
That's because it was such a one-sided trade, no one believed ATL would've really turned it down if we demanded top 5 protection on the pick. Our fans just spun that narrative to make themselves feel better about how we got fleeced by our former GM.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17222 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:03 am to
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The one guy I really liked that drafted, DD, he undervalued and got bent over on when traded

This is on the coach and his refusal to play the young guys. A FO cannot properly evaluate the roster of young players if the coach flat out refuses to play them because they make some minor mistakes.

The same coach that Griff wanted fired, but they ultimately fired Griff and kept the bum coach anyway.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
3310 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:03 am to
Dumars will forever be overshadowed by the Darko pick. If Darko wasn’t such a lazy bum, he would be a HOFer right now. He had all the tools to be great.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4283 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:06 am to
If there’s a playoff mandate, then why are you trading very valuable assets for a rookie? Why not trade that pick for a proven player to help you achieve that mandate because 99% of the time rookies do not contribute to winning.
Posted by purplepylon
NOLA & Laffy
Member since Nov 2005
8223 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:08 am to
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How does a serious team even let an article like this even get written with no rebuttal?

Even if this story is 100% fake/false (likely plenty of truth), a real organization should come out vehemenytly against it just to not look like complete clowns


He's a blogger. The team shouldn't be in the business of refuting everything a blogger writes about the team. I also read that as 50% fan fiction from the other teams' point of view. They weren't being named so they say some outlandish thing to a blogger without fear of having to answer for it. Same crap happened with the Zion/Griff piano story.
Having said all that, I don't need outside front office guys to tell me how bad this organization is right now. We can see it for ourselves. I have no idea what we are doing. Giving up a potential high lottery pick in the next year's draft is a cardinal sin in my book. Should never happen for a small market franchise with the injury history that we have.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11144 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:09 am to
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points out that this puts a lot of pressure on a young team, and that maybe some of that pressure isn't the best thing for the long-term growth of our young players.


We have 3 young players, that aren't even supposed to be major contributors this season. The onus is on our core and especially on Zion to make the leap and perform. It's beyond time for them to put it together.

Dark times? I know most didn't watch a game after January, but this season was beyond awful. We needed massive changes. I don't think he's gone far enough, but applaud them doing something. I expect a winning record, at a minimum.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4283 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:10 am to
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He's a blogger. The team shouldn't be in the business of refuting everything a blogger writes about the team. I also read that as 50% fan fiction from the other teams' point of view. They weren't being named so they say some outlandish thing to a blogger without fear of having to answer for it. Same crap happened with the Zion/Griff piano story. Having said all that, I don't need outside front office guys to tell me how bad this organization is right now. We can see it for ourselves. I have no idea what we are doing. Giving up a potential high lottery pick in the next year's draft is a cardinal sin in my book. Should never happen for a small market franchise with the injury history that we have.


He’s has media credentials from the team and was at the draft to cover the Pelicans. This isn’t just a blogger, it’s a guy you gave media access to
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5428 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:14 am to
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Give me a decade of high level play and stability and I'll be a happy arse fan.


We haven’t come close to witnessing anything in Gayle’s years as owner to think a decade of high level play is possible.

On top of the consistently incompetent hires, anytime we get a productive player the Alpha francises start tampering and make inquiries like Missi yesterday. You and I both know Missi is gone before his rookie deal expires.

If we continue to be careless with our haul of picks we have nothing but 20 something win seasons in the future.
Posted by Macintosh
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
55479 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:23 am to
Team won’t be a consistent winner until Gayle is gone
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:36 am to
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Absolutely no one knew Hailburton was going to blow his Achilles out

Pretty sure Bunchie posted this specific concern
Posted by JJYIV
Member since Oct 2008
134 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 11:37 am to
Just running the franchise into the ground until no one cares when they move to Vegas.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
37717 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:00 pm to
Stfu phag they not selling the team no matter how much you bitch.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
37717 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:01 pm to
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You and I both know Missi is gone before his rookie deal expires.



Ban bet? Put your money where your mouth is troll boy.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
32139 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:04 pm to
What do you expect from Dumars? He was given a shite ton of casino free play. He has nothing to lose of he waste it
This post was edited on 7/3/25 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Macintosh
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
55479 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:11 pm to
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Pretty sure Bunchie posted this specific concern
multiple people have including our pels bloggers. There’s no defending a move like that. They were so desperate to get Queen and quality nba front offices took advantage of that
Posted by PelMan
Member since Jun 2025
25 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:24 pm to
No way to tell if the deal shakes out until you see how Queen shakes out. We're also assuming that the guy we'd take next year would 100% shake out.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5428 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:32 pm to
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Just running the franchise into the ground until no one cares when they move to Vegas


Agree, Vegas offers a lifeline to failed cities like Oakland and NOLA to reenergize their fanbases and franchises.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17222 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:39 pm to
Vegas is gonna get an expansion team, no teams are moving.

Even if/when Pelicans are sold, they won’t be moved
Posted by DaTruth225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2015
312 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:52 pm to
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Griff was almost as bad. The one guy I really liked that drafted, DD, he undervalued and got bent over on when traded. I think he legit lost every single trade he made.


I strongly disagree. The haul he received for AD, considering he had minimal leverage, was great. The Jrue trade was also great. We're still collecting from that one. Even the Memphis trade that netted us JV and Trey turned out to be good.

Him losing every single trade is simply not true.
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
2759 posts
Posted on 7/3/25 at 12:52 pm to
It’s just hilarious how everyone on here is dead set that pick will convey into a top 3 pick. We had a crazy run of injuries, one of our worst seasons, and yet we still finished 4th in lottery odds and picked 7th! The Pelicans will improve and the Bucks are not losing Giannis. But keep running around with yalls heads cut off about how “muh 1st overall pick”. The fricking Mavs won the lottery as a play in loser and Spurs came in 2nd, I’m not planning shite around the lottery. Gimme Queen, bunch of pussies in here.
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