re: The Win Now Doc Rivers Trade Thread

Every list I have saw has Gallinari as a top 5 FA. The big two, Ingram and Davis, likely aren't going anywhere. That leaves guys like Van Fleet, Derozan, Harrell.. Gallinari is the best fit for us. But he is going to get offered big money.

Supposedly he wants to go to a good team. I saw a deal where the Lakers were going to go big after him in a S$T. But they really don't have pieces that OKC want. There could be multiple suitors and a bidding war.

Would there be an advantage to doing the trade before FA starts? Is that possible? What kind of package would get it done?

I guess its not a sexy name. But wouldn't he make us much better?

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But I love Zion at Center. In our "death line up", isn't that where he would play?

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Theoretically in the future, sure. But two major problems in the present:
1. Our “death line up” with Zion at the 5 last year couldn’t stop a nose bleed, and I don’t see that changing by next year
2. “death line ups”, similar to what GSW had, worked because the lengthy, versatile wing defenders they had at the 2-4 positions. Not only is Zion not Green on the defensive side next year, but Gallo, Ingram, and Jrue aren’t exactly Iggy, Durant, and Klay either.

When people say that the perfect fit next to Zion is a stretch big, that’s only on one side of the court. So far, Zion has shown he needs someone who can protect the rim on the other side of the floor. Now, hopefully that changes and Zion reaches his full potential and becomes Draymond in a small ball lineup, but that ain’t happening next year or probably for a few years.

I’d love to have Gall.

I’m not trading all that for him though.

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Piggybacking off the Lonzo trade idea with the Knicks....

Knicks receive Lonzo and swap #8 for our #13, and they send out Wayne Ellington and the Dallas 2021 1st

Thunder send Chris Paul to the Pels, and receive NAW, Miller, #8, Dallas 2021 1st, Cleveland 2021 2nd, Cleveland 2022 2nd

Pels get Chris Paul and Ellington while still keeping future picks.

This would of course be considering we get Doc here. Knicks might not do this, but they could try to take on Wiggins and trade up to get #2 and reunite the Ball brothers.

You're giving up Ball, NAW and 3 1sts (#13, then #8, and the future 1st)

And that's not how it works, Ingram's cap hold is around 21 million. AT most if we renounce everyone but Ingram, we will have about 7-9 million in cap space.

You would still need to cut another 7 million or so from that deal, which would mean sending out JJ.

Ingram’s current cap hold for his qualifying offer is 9.5 million.

I put the link in the post, so the money works. We are giving up a first, NAW, and Lonzo for Paul essentially.....

It's 21.6 million.

His qualifying offer is 9.5 million (not a chance we sign him to that), the cap hold is 300% of his current salary.

A future first, NAW, Lonzo (equivalent of #8) and #13.

That is WAYYYYY to much

Because they are basing it off his Qualifying Offer, which is basically just a 1 year 9.5 deal (which we would never insult him by offering)

If you really are moving on from Lonzo, you send out Lonzo to NYK for #8 and a future 1st (no need to give them #13)

You don't send out all that and gut your young talent and draft picks for a 35 year old point guard who's had a lengthy injury history. I'd love CP3 here, but the cost outweighs the benefit with him, unless we are getting him for basically a salary match, which even then our only players that we can send out salary wise to match would be too much.

Well then maybe we could keep the #8 pick, but I would have to guess OKC would other suitors who could offer more to us if they are desperate to win.

This is unrealistic anyway, because teams will be dealing with less cap space next year. I’m not sure Gayle would accept us being a tax team if we aren’t able to compete.

Also, how does the cap hold affect what we can do when the draft is before free agency? If we are making this trade before the moratorium then wouldn’t we be able to see what teams offer Ingram and then match and offer him a max?....